Talk:Tampere

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I have removed this block, because no supporting evidence has been given to identify any relevant European Union Directive:

• There has recently been some controversy in Finland because of a new European Union directive of cities. Most prominently, this directive does not count Tampere as a city, because its population density is too low. According to the directive, only six places in Finland count as cities: Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa, Turku, Lahti and Jyväskylä.

If the Directive can be identified, the block may be reinstated. The only references that Google can find is to Council of Europe meetings in the "city of Tampere"! --Red King 16:45, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

It's not an EU directive after all, it's an Eurostat statistical definition. I don't know if they use that definition any more. By Googling I found out that it was adopted in 1998. Googling for "Tampere ei ole kaupunki" ("Tampere is not a city" in Finnish) gets lots of hits, all confirming my claim. Unfortunately, Googling for the English version only hits three Wikipedia mirrors. — JIP | Talk 05:58, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

With some further Googling, I have found that Eurostat defines a "densely populated area" as having at least 50,000 people and at least 500 people per km². Tampere meets the first criterion but not the second. However, I can't find any mention of a city having to be a densely populated area. I think that either the definition was changed or the Finnish media misunderstood it. — JIP | Talk 09:00, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

It should be noted that Tampere met both of those cirteria in 1965. After that, two rural municipalities have been merged (Aitolahti and Teisko), totalling over 500 km² in area but only about 5000 in population. (Though Aitolahti has grown a bit since that.) --Oami 14:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I added a panorama of Tampere to the commons: [1]. Maybe you can find some use for it. --Smicke 13:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

What is the criteria that makes Tampere the second most important center of Finland? Does population do that or is it a geographical fact? I think there is no actual proof about this especially when Turku has a seaport and an internationally strong logistic location. And when we think about population Turku Region has 230.000 people living in area smaller than Tampere. And if we compare city region or historical provinces the difference is always very small, but Turku has higher density of population in each one too. Well and if it is geographical fact therefore Oulu which has whole Lapland under its influence, doesn't that make it much more important center than Tampere. So my purpose was to add that this statement is nothing but controversial and obviously not fact.--jertique I 23:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it is very clear that Helsinki is the most important centre of Finland, and either Turku or Tampere is the second. But which of the two, that is a difficult question. I have relatives and friends in both cities, but lately it seems that I've visited Tampere far more often than Turku. JIP | Talk 20:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Student Population

The TUT site listed almost 12000 students at that school, and the UTA article almost 15000 students at that one, so perhaps this article needs to be updated to match. Or alternatively, to not quote student numbers at all, instead referring readers to the detailed articles. --YoavShapira 09:40, 23 December 2005 (EST)

[edit] Pronunciation

Someone want to throw up an IPA pronunciation key for this city? Peter1968 17:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable persons

I very heavily trimmed the "Notable persons" section, because it looked way too long. I only kept people who are known throughout Finland, and possibly, maybe, there might be one or two people even outside Finland who have heard of one or two of them once in their lives. See Talk:Helsinki for precedent, about removal of non-nationally famous inhabitants of Helsinki. JIP | Talk 19:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)