Talk:Tammy Duckworth

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[edit] Couillaud Thanks for making it better

Couillaud,

It looked like you had cut out the original view I had placed on her abortion stance. I was wrong. Thanks for improving the edit. I misinterpreted what you were doing. Bubbler2222.

My intent had been to rewrite it over in a form consistent with the rest of the article, as yours just had it as an isolated quote from the Post. I cut and pasted the original entry just below "Health Care" and meant to give it its own header, and then forgot to add the header. Looking at it, it DID seem that I had removed it. Thanks for understanding. -- Couillaud 22:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] McCain-Feingold

User:Bubbler2222, you list McCain-Feingold in one of your recent edits, but I cannot find a reference where McCain-Feingold specifically prohibited the NRCC from mentioning Roskam's name in its ads. I believe that the law applies to 527 groups like the Swift Boaters or MoveOn in that it limits direct endorsements of a candidate by such a group, but not the party itself. Can you cite the specifics of the law, please? -- Couillaud 21:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Anon edits

24.15.239.72 (talk · contribs) claimed to be the subject of this article in one edit then used third person saying, "She is an amputee, not a paraplegic" two minutes later in the next edit. FWIW, I think a politician has better things to do than edit their own internet biography and complain about items that are a matter of public record. --Dual Freq 04:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Tammy is a "Public figure" and information such as date of birth and the like is a matter of public record and fair game. see NEW YORK TIMES CO. v. SULLIVAN, 376 U.S. 254 (1964).68.77.32.126 05:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "moved to 2006 election article"

Interesting that the "Robocalling" section of this article was completely excised under the heading "moved to 2006 election article", but that information never appears in that article, along with the endorsement by Michael J. Fox. Neither was placed in the other article.

The same editor (Tdl1060) also changed the header "Negative tactics by political opponents" to a more euphemistic "Opponents' campaign agiainst Duckworth" (sic). The point of the header is the fact that the particular campaign tactics used are specifically defined as being negative.

---Couillaud 18:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC) I plan to reinstate the removed text in the first case and revert to the original header in the second.

You must not have read the article in question before commenting, because the information was added to the election article before it was removed from Duckworth's.--Tdl1060 18:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I have re-read the article about the 2006 Illinois 6th race, and I do note that both are there, just less conspicuous than before, and that the robocall portion has lost approximately 100 words from the original, failing to mention the frequency of the calls, the total number of calls, and the fact that the Duckworth campaign specifically labeled them dirty tricks; the effect of the omission is to the effect of making the incident seem much more innocuous. If you want to move part of this article to another, please do not change the meaning. This is central to the fact of the calls themselves, especially if there is a repeat in 2008. -- Couillaud 06:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request from Tammy

The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The following request was confirmed as coming from Tammy Duckworth*. The result of the discussion at the biography of living perons noticeboard (direct link is here) and in keeping with WP policy/guidline, consensus is to remove the exact date of birth and her mother's maiden name (as requested). Thanks, R. Baley 22:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

*If necessary, I will forward proof by email to any administrator upon request. R. Baley

Hello. This is Tammy. I am requesting that all editors please leave my birth date and mother's maiden name off the page for protection from identity theft. I truly respect the free nature of this excellent page and know that I am now a public figure (if only a minor one). However, I would be grateful if we did not make it so easy for someone to have access to my personal information that is commonly used to verify identity. Thank you all in advance for your help. cheers, tammy. (IP address removed, R. Baley) 05:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

With all due respect, running in a highly visible congressional election, Illinois's 6th congressional district election, 2006 does not qualify you as a "minor public figure". Also, you are the Director of the Illinois Department of Veterans Affairs which makes you very much a public figure and a major one at that. See NEW YORK TIMES CO. v. SULLIVAN, 376 U.S. 254 (1964) to remove any doubt about your rights regarding this. Now, if the information is not accurate then you may have rights, assuming you can break though the protection Wikipeida has in regards to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. Not to sound cynical, the sword can cut both ways.TEAMCrocko 00:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Is there a published source cited for the birthdate and mother's maiden name? I didn't see one in the article, but maybe I'm missing something. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see the mother's maiden name comes from the Washington Post. Still looking for the birthdate. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Birthdate cited as well. I'm afraid the information is encyclopedic and has been published in multiple reliable sources, so I think removing it would only damage the article to no good effect. Even if we removed it here, it would make little difference in deterring identity theft, as the information could easily be found elsewhere. I've changed my opinion, see the WP:BLPN entry. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Here is a valid ( by wiki standards) cite for Ms. Duckworth's birth date. The Honolulu Advertiser TEAMCrocko 02:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

NOTE: much of this disucssion has shifted to Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive26#Tammy_Duckworth_wants_to_remove_her_maiden_name_and_birthdate_.28closed.29. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ybbor (talk • contribs) 02:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.


[edit] Curious about US Flag patch shown in picture

I'm just curious, I noticed that in the picture at the top-right of the page, Tammy has been photographed in her Army green service uniform, testifying before a congressional body, and on her right shoulder she is wearing the 3.25" x 1.75" colored US Flag patch. This has confused me for awhile, as you wouldn't normally wear that patch on the Army green service uniform (per AR 670-1 dtd 3-Feb-05, para 15-10). Does anyone know why she is pictured wearing the colored flag patch on her formal green service uniform? Is there a special directive to wear it when testifying in Congress? Just curious... --AzureCitizen (talk) 00:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

An Army National Guard stipulation or addendum? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 01:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)