Talk:Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)

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YesY All the start class criteria
YesY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
YesY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
YesY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
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YesY A casual reader should learn something about the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Third Uncle

The text describing the Bauhaus cover version includes this statement: "…unlike Eno's version, it features a guitar solo, performed by Daniel Ash." I'm not sure if this is supposed to mean:

  1. Eno's version does not have a guitar solo, which it most certainly does, or
  2. Eno's version does not have a guitar solo by Daniel Ash, which probably goes without saying but isn't particularly relevant.

In either case I'm removing the assertion. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Eno Taking Tiger Mountain.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy (album)Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) is the correct album title. Moving the article to this title would also eliminate the need to use the "(album)" parenthetical. — Pele Merengue (talk) 23:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC) - Move proposal completed by —Andrewa (talk) 02:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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[edit] Discussion

Any additional comments:

Unsure. I have completed this move request in order to allow others to comment.

Certainly that's the way the title appeared on the original album cover. But, Amazon.com lists the album name without the brackets, and the 2003 remake cover describes it as Brian Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy, again no brackets. So the common name may well be without the brackets. Another consideration is that having the brackets may violate the policy of a reasonable minimum of ambiguity (WP:NC), in that the title with brackets looks like a disambiguated page for something called Taking Tiger Mountain. Andrewa (talk) 03:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

My reasoning for requesting the move is simply based on the fact that it is the official album title. It's also formatted this way on the digipack spine, inside cover, and back cover of the 2004 "Original Masters" CD reissue. If you search Amazon.com, you'll find that there are several entries for the album, some with the brackets and some without. What the 2003 remake does probably shouldn't be seriously taken into consideration seeing as it's an unofficial fan-made tribute to the original album (and even you were to use it as a source, you would notice that the title also appears at the top of that web page as Taking Tiger Mountain (by Strategy)). Allmusic's entry for the album uses the brackets, as does Pitchfork's review entry and Robert Christgau's review entry. I'd also argue that the title Taking Tiger Mountain is more common than Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy when used colloquially, but the name most often used as the official title is Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy). I doubt the parenthesis would really throw anybody off into thinking the article was a disambiguated page when the title is also formatted this way as the title at the beginning of the article and in the infobox. Pele Merengue (talk) 10:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Support returning article to where it was to start with. Original move was unnecessary since opera was not going to exactly the same location. Google books and Google scholar prefer the title as suggested the majority of the time. Links in infobox to reviews also use the suggested title. Parentheses also serve to disambiguate without specific "(album)" disambiguation. Cross porpoises (talk) 22:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.