Talk:Take Five

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[edit] Couple of points

Before i make the change, I would like to check with you guys as it states on the right hand table that this CD was a single when it wasn't (due to there being more than 1 song on the album). Also Paul Desmond was not the only writer on the album as far as I know (I belive that it was Dave Brubeck who wrote Blue rondo a la turk) but I'm not sure. 202.168.18.88 07:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It

Does anyone concur that the repeated use of the word "it" is excessive? --162.83.106.21 22:30, 2005 July 13 (UTC)

Little annoying, ya. ¦ Reisio 04:51, 2005 July 14 (UTC)

[edit] Sung?

Who is the best known vocalist who sang this song? Clearly that should be mentioned. Am I unusual in being more familiar with it as an instrumental? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 04:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, no vocalists have ever "sang" it. There are no lyrics that I know of. AFAIK, it is solely an instrumental work--and I'd hate to hear it with lyrics. Maybe Manhattan Transfer could pull it off, but other than that--NO! Kurt Weber 04:39, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Good, then removing the previous language which described the piece as a "song" was an appopriate correction. Thanks. -- Infrogmation 04:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Following up on that, should {{Song-stub}} be changed to {{Music-stub}}? Cohen the Bavarian 08:53, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes - done. ¦ Reisio 10:15, 2005 July 16 (UTC)
The famous swedish jazz vocalist Monica Zetterlund sang it in Swedish... --81.224.241.132 09:58, 2005 August 15 (UTC)
Message to Kurt Weber who says that, as far as he knows, nobody has sung Take Five: please get the Take Five single (Jazzman Records, 1962), Carmen McRae, D Brubeck, L Brubeck & P Desmond and listen to it. A version you won't ever forget --Kranich 08:05, 2005 December 3 (UTC)
Carmen McRae did in fact perform it. Classic. WesleyPinkham 07:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Al Jarreau also sings it (can be found on both his Best Of album and My Favorite Things album). Amazing performance. The lyrics was apparently written by Dave Brubeck's wife. -- Bjørn Vester.

[edit] No. 1?

Was it number one worldwide, or just in the USA? --70.104.234.254 15:52, 2005 July 20 (UTC)

I believe the statistic is that it was the first jazz recording (as a single) to sell a million copies. I think it made it into the top 100 according to Billboard - dunno if it was ever #1. ¦ Reisio 00:56, 2005 July 21 (UTC)
Oh my, there certainly are a large flock of claimants to the "first jazz million seller"! From so many decades, too! Amazing. -- Infrogmation 05:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Ya, I don't see how anybody can be sure about any such information. Iirc it may have been more specifically for "first small jazz ensemble recording to sell a million copies" or something, but it's been a while since I looked into it. ¦ Reisio 05:51, 2005 July 21 (UTC)

The amazeing thing is that despite becoming a Jazz standard Take 5 was a B track and no one in the record company flet that it would do well due to the use of 5/4 time over the more traditional 4/4 time used in most Jazz.FLJuJitsu —Preceding unsigned comment added by FLJuJitsu (talk • contribs) 22:32, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFC:Image choice

The current image used in this article, Image:Take_Five_introduction.png, is not an accurate transcription of the piano intro of "Take Five"; it should be in the key of Gb and in 5/4 time (and if it's to be representative of how it was most often played by Brubeck, the second low Eb should be the same octave as the first). Image:Take_Five-piano_intro.png is accurate and should be used instead. ¦ Reisio 00:05, 2005 August 12 (UTC)

Prove that it is inaccurate: Image:Take Five introduction.png is sourced. Hyacinth 22:41, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Here is a scan of the E♭ version of The Standards Real Book produced by Sher Music, Co. [1].
You'll see that the key is E♭ - when transposed to concert, this becomes G♭:

Image:Take Five-Sher.png


Here is a scan from the booklet included with the compilation album Dave Brubeck, Time Signatures: A Career Retrospective.
The part where he specifies that the time is specifically 5/4 is marked by a red box:

Image:Take Five-Time Sigs02.png


Here is a copy of the piano intro from the classic recording at half speed.
You can clearly hear that the first and third notes are basically the same tone:

Media:Dave Brubeck Quartet, The-Time Out-Take Five-half speed.ogg

¦ Reisio 23:49, 2005 August 15 (UTC)

Thanks. Hyacinth 22:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Isn't the whole song in triplets? --70.240.68.157

nope ¦ Reisio 03:55, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
The song does swing, however, but that is generally assumed in jazz. Evan Seeds (talk) 05:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pentangle's 'Take Three'

I'd like to observe that the folk-rock group Pentangle had a hit with a song whose rhythm and melody must have been heavily influenced by Take Five. In fact, their song, Light Flight, was better known as Take Three Girls, after the TV series that it was the theme music for. When I was a kid, I used to love that theme song. However, I'd long forgotten it, and had always thought it was actually Take Five. When I recently heard the Pentangle song again, which has a female vocalist, I was amused that my mind had substituted Take Five for "Take Three". But they really do have a striking connection. I'm surprised that this connection has not been noted by others. --Michaelmross 16:48, 2005 November 4 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Time out album cover.jpg

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BetacommandBot 00:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let's kill the covers list

There are now 16 items in the covers list, which is *way* too many. This song is too much of a classic to list every cover. I suggest we kill the list, note that it has been recorded many times in many formats, and perhaps have a short text description of unusual versions, such as those with lyrics. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 20:07, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Nobody seems to object - or maybe to care - so I think I will. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 21:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)