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28 Jan 2005 – 14 July 2006

Contents 1 DYK 2 WikiProject Taiwan 3 Reviewing articles 4 Taiwanese people 5 IRC chat for WikiProject Taiwan 6 Broken Link? 7 External links opinion 8 Task forces 9 Translation 10 Allegations of Chinese apartheid 11 Help with Nationality Law of the Republic of China 12 Taiwanese military history 13 Kangxi lai le 14 Romanisation 15 Josephine Ho 16 Art Academy of Taiwan 17 Janfusun Fancyworld 18 Two top modeling agencies in Taiwan 19 # National Museum of Marine Biology and Aquarium 20 An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community 21 Move/Rename Vanness Wu

[edit] DYK

The DYK section featured on the main page is always looking for interesting new and recently expanded stubs from different parts of the world. Please make a suggestion.--Peta 02:11, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Taiwan

Just a notice to you all that the WikiProject Taiwan was recently created. AQu01rius (User | Talk | Websites)  21:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reviewing articles

Just wondering...how are articles reviewed? There are some articles under Wikiproject Taiwan that are not assessed yet. -- Asdf1248 06:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment gives you a general concept. For importance part, I added the grading scheme under WikiProject Taiwan just now =) AQu01rius (User | Talk) 06:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese people

Hi, there's a dispute here involving an anon who is trying to push the POV that the Han Chinese ethnicity does not include speakers of Wu (吳語), Min (閩語), Hakka (客家話) or Cantonese (粵語), with the conclusion being that the Hoklo and Hakka are not Han Chinese. The basis of his definition is genetic: in short, southerners with Baiyue (百越) admixture are not true Han Chinese.

In fact, the entire Taiwanese people article is extremely messy. After several POV-pushing attempts, it now appears to say the same thing three or four times from different angles. The article needs to be cleaned up or merged into Demographics of Taiwan.

Please come take a look if you're interested.

-- ran (talk) 00:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Major steps have been made on this article. References, NPOV language, throuroughly discussed methodology, reliance on social science rather than political rhetoric...etc

Maowang 02:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IRC chat for WikiProject Taiwan

Why don't we have an IRC channel where we can hook up and chat in real time about WikiProject Taiwan? If everyone gives this a green light, I suggest we have the IRC channel info put up on the main WikiProject page so that people can just get on IRC to discuss about how to improve Taiwan-related articles. This is also definitely a better method for discussing disputed articles since we can voice concerns about what we think is wrong in an article and fix it. Why settle for talk page discussions that take too long and too slow to resolve when we can figure out a solution in real time? :) — Nrtm81 16:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

How do you do it? AQu01rius (User • Talk) 18:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Have you used IRC before?

1. Go download and install mIRC from http://www.mirc.com/get.html
2. After installation, launch mIRC. Click 'Continue', then in the Options dialog box that pops up, fill in 'Full name' (can be AQu01rius), 'Email' (can be fake abc@123.com), 'Nickname' (AQu01rius), and 'Alternative' (AQu01rius`), Click OK.
3. type "/server irc.freenode.net" in the text input box at the bottom (connects to Freenode server), close the dialog box that comes up.
4. type "/join #wikipedia-taiwan" (joins the chatroom)

— Nrtm81 00:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Link?

Sorry if this is not the proper place for this. I noticed that the link to "Photos of Taiwan" links to a site that has photos of Hainan Island, China, not Taiwan.

[edit] External links opinion

I have noticed that certain editors have been pushing the POV that Taiwan is currently under military occupation, and are trying to support that contention through external links to the following two sites: taiwankey.net, and taiwanbasic.com (not the main page here, but an embedded one arguing that Taiwan is US territory). Question: in your opinion, are (1) the sites I mentioned reliable sources, as opposed to proposals for a fringe theory, and (2) should they be linked or should material derived from them be removed. I ask because I'm afraid I may have an subconscious bias against the position which heavily favors Taiwan independence. Any help is greatly appreciated.Ngchen 01:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Depends on the context. If they're cited as examples of POVs on say, Legal status of Taiwan then I think it's okay as long as other widely held POVs are also represented. Otherwise just tossing them on any Taiwan or ROC related page is, IMHO, inappropriate. -Loren 02:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

That is the Richard Hartzell hypothesis and I guess it is one point of view...but documents are just pieces of paper without a willingness to back them up or motivate people into action. Hartzell has a small following in Taiwan, but has frequently feuded with others over the theory. There is also a group from Huwei that supports Taiwan becoming a U.S. State to demonstrate why unification with China is as silly as unification with the U.S. It is just another point of view. It could be included as, like Loren said, one theory of many.Maowang 08:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

p.s.

Thank you for being aware of your own bias. Many users are not strong enough, or honest enough to do that.Maowang 08:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Task forces

I have recently created two task forces: Taiwanese politics and Taiwanese aborigines.--Jerry 23:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:TWTOWNS is created to improve Taiwanese township articles, since most of them are stubs.--Jerry 19:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

I need someone's help with translating the History of Kaohsiung.--Jerry 21:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a stab at it later on today. -Loren 21:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Loren.--Jerry 22:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Allegations of Chinese apartheid

A recently-created article, Allegations of Chinese apartheid, has been nominated for deletion. Comments are invited on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Chinese apartheid. -- ChrisO 23:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Nationality Law of the Republic of China

Help me beef up Nationality Law of the Republic of China‎ lest it get too encrusted with my own POV. Jidanni 21:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taiwanese military history

The Taiwanese military history task force is recently created. Please join the project if your interested.--Jerry 17:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kangxi lai le

I am glad to be here working with you all. I have started a new article for the TV program. Please feel free to add/edit the page and help to improve. Thanks. TheAsianGURU 19:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

While I am still updating the show constantly, I have also started to work on the bios of the two hosts. Trying to get the information translated from Chinese. Feel free to let me know how I can improve. TheAsianGURU (talk) 00:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Romanisation

Hi. This discussion has probably been held before (I can't seem to find it), but I think we need to come to a common agreement about how to romanise Taiwanese place names. At the moment, a mixture of Wade-Giles, Hanyu Pinyin and Tongyong Pinyin are used. We have Banciao City (Tongyong) but Hsinchu (Wade-Giles). To add further confusion, the pages for the Taipei MRT are in Hanyu. Now, I understand the politics of the whole affair, namely that the Taipei City Government has decided to use Hanyu, while Tongyong is being promoted by the central DPP government. However, to a reader unaccustomed to the context of Taiwanese romanisations, the pages just appear confusing and cluttered. What do people think? I believe that every article should include the Wade-Giles, Tongyong and Hanyu romanisation somewhere, whether it be in the lead sentence or in a separate table. Deciding on the article name is, of course, the most difficult issue. Ronline ✉ 05:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps wait until the March 2008 elections are over, or perhaps 4 years after that. See also my suffering. Jidanni 04:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Josephine Ho

Josephine Ho (zh:何春蕤) was violently deleted and discussions were slammed shut. Jidanni 04:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Art Academy of Taiwan

Art Academy of Taiwan - does it exist? Does it go by another name? Hadoooookin (talk) 14:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Janfusun Fancyworld

Hi everyone, I've started an article on Janfusun Fancyworld, however I'm not familiar at all with Taiwan and was hoping someone would be able to expand upon the article. I'm not even particularly sure I have the location right, so any help would be much appreciated! Seaserpent⁸⁵ 13:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two top modeling agencies in Taiwan

• EeLin Modeling Agency
• Catwalk Production House

Hi everyone. I have started the articles about those two agencies. I am also planning to beef up their content by adding/translating some of their models’ bio into English Wiki. Please feel free to help or let me know where I can improve. Thank you. TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] # National Museum of Marine Biology and Aquarium

I just started an article on National Museum of Marine Biology and Aquarium. It's not a great start, certainly not even a very good start. But it's a great aquarium and it deserves great article. Readin (talk) 23:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit, also to be held in Cebu. The Philippine Wikipedia Community is an Implementing Partner of the Open Source Summit. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to meet people from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. You can register for the Open Source Summit here. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

The Philippine Wikipedia Community
WP:PINOY

[edit] Move/Rename Vanness Wu

I'd like to move Vanness Wu to "Van Ness Wu," as this is how his name is written on all official sites. Any discussion/objections? Thanks! --Hamuhamu (talk) 04:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)