Talk:Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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I see no reason why this should be a seperate page other than someone wanting to make a political point; surely the situation would be made clearer to a reader by including it within the Taiwan article. Cripipper 22:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a term not an actual entity. It is a political term used by the PRC and should be described as a specific term used by the PRC. Everything else is overlapping with other articles and if you have issues with that, please see Taiwan, Taiwan Province, and Republic of China and edit there.

[edit] Merge with Taiwan

I agree that there is no reason for this article to exist. Wikipedia may as well have articles titled "California, Mexico" or "Texas, Mexico" since some Mexicans claim that these areas should be part of Mexico.

Or, in a similar NPOV vein, "Western Sahara, Morocco"

Similarly, there are plenty of disclaimers all over articles about Taiwan and the Republic of China etc, that indicate the PRC claims them. This article is simply redundant. Itis not necessary for this article to be merged, it should simply be deleted.

Quite frankly I can't see why it wasn't simply deleted when first put up. It also sets a very poor precedent for other Wiki articles about other places in dispute.

Last time I checked The mexican governemnt does not still claim the SW USA. The PRC government claims Taiwan not just a few chinese. Zazaban 00:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

This article is on a specific (perhaps hypothetical) administrative entity. If anything, it should be merged with the Taiwan Province article has an article exclusively devoted to the administration and not cultural and geographical aspects.--Jiang 03:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the "Western Sahara" argument: Oued Ed-Dahab-Lagouira is one of three Moroccan provinces in Western Sahara. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 13:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree that this article should be just deleted as there are no such thing as "Taiwan Province, PRC". Jim Liu 19:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

This article should be deleted. Taiwan Province has always been controlled by the Republic of China. The PRC has never set foot in Taiwan. Therefore, it is completely illegitimate and unreasonable to have a "Taiwan Province, PRC" when it doesn't exist. It is only a fantasy made up by the Communist government. TingMing 00:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This article talks about a nonexistent political entity. It talks about nothing. I've been to Taiwan on bussiness. It's nothing like Red China. And I am not even Chinese, I am Russian. --SergeiXXX 17:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The PRC claims the ROC as being part of its territory, so it seems correct to have articles describing those claims. This one describes how the PRC subdivides part of the ROC. Similarly, Japanese subdivisions of claims of Russian-controlled areas are described (although very briefly) at Nemuro Subprefecture. If someone in Mexico claims part of the USA, then I guess someone could write a page about that, as long as someone digs up the necessary sources. (Stefan2 12:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC))

Agree with Stefan2, this article is not about Taiwan, it is about what the PRC claims being part of its territory. Whether or not PRC actually control the province is irrelevant. Chris! my talk 02:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

No one said the PRC isn't claiming Taiwan as being part of it. But having this article as its own is not appropriate. The claim should be mentioned in the Taiwan Province article only. So I suggest to merge these two together.--Jerry 21:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
This article describes something real; it describes the structures in place in China to support their claim that Taiwan is a province of China. There are real people whose job is to attend National People's Congress meetings as "representatives" of Taiwan. Even though these people are just going through the motions, they are in fact going through the motions and those motions are referred to by the PRC government frequently enough to make an article useful.
As for merging this article with Taiwan or Taiwan Province, I believe that would be confusing. This article describes something that happens in the PRC. It really has very little to do with either Taiwan the island, Taiwan the nation, or Taiwan the province administered by the ROC, just as the Napoleon Complex has little to do with Napoleon. The separate Taiwan, ROC and Taiwan, PRC articles are NPOV in that they both describe government structures and what affect those structures actually have. Merging the two would suggest that they have something in common when they have little in common beyond their names.Readin (talk) 18:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Further reading

Are the books in the "further reading" specific enough to the topic of China's supposed province to be listed here? Based on their names they seem to be about the general relationship between Taiwan and China, not the specific aspect that is the topic of this article.Readin (talk) 18:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed statement

I don't think I've ever read the PRC refering to the ROC as "provincial" authorities. Even doing so would give the ROC some legitimacy. Roadrunner (talk) 04:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The term used in most press releases and statements is to refer to the ROC as a "local authority". An example of the PRC view towards the ROC can be found in this white paper.-Loren (talk) 17:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)