Talk:Taga za Jug
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Laveol, stop deleting my edits Jtozija 17:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)Jtozija
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- The struga festival is completely irrelevant and already covered in Struga. The wine is also very irrelevant, this is the article for the poem, make another one for the wine itself. Also Miladinov, as he declared himself, was Bulgarian. Mr. Neutron 18:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't see how the explanation what the song is about is irrlevant about the song itself. I don't see how an explanation of the wine called the same way as the song is irrrelevantas well. And, how could he possibly be a bulgarian when he is longing for his homeland, Macedonia. Citation:
"Ne, ja ne mozham ovde da sedam, ne, ja ne mozham mrazoj da gledam! Dajte mi krilja ja da si metnam i v nashi str'ni da si preletnam; na nashi mesta ja da si idam, da vidam Ohrid, Struga da vidam."
Ohrid and Struga have never been Bulgarian, nor have the Miladov brothers. If at some time they have declared themselves Bulgarians, that was because of the repression of the macedonian people at that time. If the Republic of Macedonia did not exist at that time, it does not mean that there was no macedonian population either. Stop stealing other peoples history. If you do not agree with me, please provide the wider audience with your own view of the meaning of the song.
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- The population of Ohrid and Struga, and most of the region of present day Republic of Macedonia were considered Bulgarian prior to the beginning of the 20th century. See Demographic history of Macedonia. There was no mention of "Macedonian" ethnicity prior to this period. The Miladinovi brothers have always declared themselves in their correspondence as Bulgarians and the population of their native lands as Bulgarian. Mr. Neutron 19:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Also do not revert the name of the poem. Miladinov did not write "Т'га за jуг", he wrote "Тъга за юг", exactly as it will be written in modern standard Bulgarian language. Mr. Neutron 19:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Macedonia was considered as Bulgaria by whom??? The rest of the world or by Bulgaria??? Maybe i consider african tribes to be macedonian, but who gives a damn about my opinion when that's not reality. You really need to start to see the world from the other angle. For your own good. Otherwise you might end up one day claiming Dalaj Lama (or however that is spelled) is bulgarian as well.Jtozija 20:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- There is plenty of evidence from western and estern travellers. Mr. Neutron 20:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- As far as I know you're the once claiming that everybody from Alexander the Great through to Cleopatra????? were Macedonian. That's the first time I hear about African tribes, but if you say so :) --Laveol 05:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Neutron (actually ForeignerFromTheEast), sure "Struga Festival" is "irrelevant" except for the fact that it hosted several NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS from all around the globe. big deal. It doesnt matter that the festival was intentionaly established in Struga to honor the Miladinovci Brothers and that Konstantin's "Tga za Jug" was translated by the Festival in numerous languages and spreaded around the world. Big deal. Everything is irrelevant on this planet except the opinion of 2 Bulgarian editors. And a new thing: Now Laveol contests the use of Macedonia EVEN AS A REGIONAL TERM. My statement that Konstantin was "Macedonian-born" was reverted by the editor in question. absurd Dzole 07:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)