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[edit] Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_martial_art add yourself!
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[edit] name of article
just wondering, how did we settle on the spelling taekyon? it's not any of the proper romanization for either of the korean orthography. is this an "official" spelling? it would seem to be hardly an established english spelling that justifies variance from rr, imho. Appleby 22:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually taekkyon written with only one k is something you never see. So why the main article about taekkyon is located here is a bit of a mistery. --Kbarends 07:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
do you have any suggestions on which of the various romanizations this should be moved to? from quick google:
- 1,760 for taekgyeon
- 41,700 for taekkyon
- 969 for taekkyeon
i generally lean towards revised romanization for consistency with korean naming policy, unless there is an established english spelling, like kimchi or taekwondo, but apparently there's orthographic confusion even in hangul. Appleby 20:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Robert Young used the term 'Tae Kyon' in his, quite extensive, article about the history of taekgyeon in the journal of asian martial arts (1993 issue). It is [available here]. I don't care what kind of romanization system is used, as long as it is used consistently.
I agree. I am a current practionioner of Taekkyon in Korea and Taekkyon with two ks seems to be the official spelling. Also 택견 appears to be the official Korean spelling. Robert Young wrote an excellant article about Taekkyon, but I am not sure why he deviated from the more common spelling in Korea--Eugokin 16:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Wiki about spelling I believe that the KTA uses Taekkyon as the official spelling, so I believe so should we. Even though according to modern romanization rules 'taekgyeon' would be better. I vote vor taekkyon. Kbarends 20:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The Korea Sports Association, and the ministry of culture and tourism has the official English spelling as "Taekkyon".--Bigzilla 08:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Taekyon Has Kicks?!?!?!
Ok, it says in the article that '...subak was divided into different segments, including yusul (a grappling art), kicking, and so forth, with Taekkyon being one such segment....'. But then why does Taekyon have kicks?100110100 05:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Subak consisted of kicking and grappling techniques. It is believed that around the beginning of the Joseon Dynasty the art divided in a seperate grappling part named yusul and a kicking part named taekkyeon. Kbarends 07:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Not what it says in the article........100110100 01:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Taekyon Not MA and is a sport??
Does anyone have any references for this? From what I know, Taekyon was requirement for Chosun military although it was practiced by commoners as part of folk culture in much the same way that ssirum was. That's doesn't mean that taekyon wasn't a true martial art. Such a comment seems extremely NPOV and a violation of [[WP:#soap]].Melonbarmonster 07:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
It is both. Taekkyon was played at the Dan-oh festival, and other festivals, and it was a martial method (martial art) that was also used as self defense.
It is wise to avoid the ignorance trap of seperating martial art and sport.--Bigzilla 09:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Right, taekkyon is a martial art which can be practiced in a sportly manner. You can probably also say that taekkyon is a game. Maybe somehow we can explain this in the article?? Kbarends 10:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes. It is all those things. --Bigzilla 11:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] United
All taekkyon united in Korea. Is there a reference for that? Where can I find it? Kbarends 10:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
You can contact the Korea Taekkyon Association (KTA). In February I was personally told so by KTA member Si Hyeok Lee, the son of the KTA founder. --Bigzilla 11:11, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] American Taekkyon
Are there any official Taekkyon schools in America? Quietmartialartist 16:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Take a look at http://taekkyon.de/html/en/circle.html#usa or http://taekkyon.de/html/en/circle.html. They listed all countries which have taekkyon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.143.197.114 (talk) 13:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] dongyi.org/ Eastern martial arts Taekkyon
This "Dongyi Taekkyon" was made by Pak Sung Ho. He claims that he learned this system by some old mountain hermit / master, but there is not the slightest proof that this man existed. The sport which is taught by Pak Sung-ho is a mixture of Capoeira, Acrobatics and a some few Taekkyon techniques. However, all Taekkyon styles have a certain "basic step", called Pum Balb Gi. The step which they teach at Dongyi is very different from the actual form and is never used while fighting (because it is just not possible to use it (the feet are not lifted frequently enough in order to move flexibly). I am sorry for the Dongyi people, but we should not support such kind of swindle. They can do such a sport, there is nothing wrong about it, but they should not claim that it is Taekkyon or a traditional thing. A few decades ago, there were absolutely no such saltos or Capoeira moves in Korea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.143.197.114 (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Origin not Ssireum
Taekkyon and Ssireum share some techniques, that's true. Even the names for the throws are the same (like "An Nagg Geol I" or "Deot Geoli" or ""Nakshi Geoli"). However, I do not know any source that proves that Ssireum is the origin of Taekkyon. It is more probable that both sports developed independently. There is not even any sign for a relationship of the two martial arts. If nobody disagrees, I will edit the article in a few days. --S.pioneer (talk) 10:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I edited it. I also edited some other things, e.g. there is no citation needed for the fact that taekkyon teaches a lot of leg techniques. It's just too obvious. I practiced taekkyon in Korea, it's just obvious. --S.pioneer (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Focus = striking?
Taekkyon contains a lot of throws which are similar to those trained in Judo. Shouldn't we edit the focus? It's striking at the moment, but "mixed" might be better. --S.pioneer (talk) 13:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What is the hanja for this word?
tell me 70.89.165.91 (talk) 22:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
