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[edit] Popular Culture References

The popular culture of my ball sack section is attracting females as my pet. References to non-traditional uses of tabla. The latest, a list of songs by rock band Tool, exemplifies how out of control this can get. I submit that specfic references of the use of tabla do not belong in this article. It would be more approprite to create another page "List of uses of tabla" if people wish to enumerate the hundreds of thousands of specific uses of tabla. ~~

[edit] List of Tabla Players

The "Famous Players" section on here is out of control. Soon every tabla player in the world will be famous enough to rate this list. There is a reason there is not a "Famous Authors" list on the "Book" page. I propose that it should be removed or relocated as it already dominates the space on this page and will only continue to get longer and increasingly meaningless. Any thoughts? -David Aue

Excellent idea. I've been bold and removed all entries except the ones with en: articles. Maybe someone interested can resurrect them as and when articles get created. If it goes out of control again, it can be removed forever. Ambarish 01:23, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

The additions to this list after your reduction I think seals the deal. While I'm sure all the listees are fine percussionists it is hard to imagine that any reasonably short list of famous tabla players can be maintained. I will create a new page and move it there -David Aue

David, I think that a link to some famous tabla players is necessary if someone wants to look them up on youtube or elsewhere. I have created a stub for this and added the link to it the see also section since I couldn't find the page you have created. Feel free to redirect the link to your page if it is more comprehensive. Truetyper (talk) 03:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] External Link to Instructional Materials

I think the user who placed the link for: http://www.rohan.org.uk/ in the external links section removed my edit for "Virtual Tabla" from the external links section. I think its obvious that my link would help viewers of the article learn more about the tabla, and thus it shouldn't have been removed. Thus I re-added this link, but someone reverted it. Look into the history of the tabla wikipedia article and see that the link for 'virtual tabla' was vandalized and removed by the entry of http://www.rohan.org.uk/.

An edit war has ensued between myself ( 66.159.228.53 ) and another editor ( 68.55.238.30 ). The other party would like to have a link to his [product] and I understand that: "Wikipedia disapproves strongly of links that are added for advertising purposes." Wikipedia Policy. I have sent the other editor two personal e-mails using the address from his site (support@aimrec.com). I included the link to the relevent wikipedia policy and asked politely that he stop placing an advertising link on this page. His response has only been in the form of readding his link several more times. Opinions? Courses of action?

In my opinion, the article isn't improved by the link. It's been two days now and the link hasn't been re-added, so perhaps the other editor has come to agree. I'll add this page to my watchlist. Jkelly 03:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hindi

If a further explanation is not given "gharānā (ghar = "house" Hindi, -ānā = "of the" Persian" needs to be changed. Because gharānā, means, to quote my dictionary:

घराना [*gharāyatana-], 1. family, household. 2. house, lineage. 3. school (of music, dance).

In this sense the -ānā suffix is indeed a Persian derived element meaning roughly "of the", but we need to be more careful when we cut and paste, and use italics! And then, I'm not even touching the Urdu-Hindi issue! Anyway, sorry for nit-picking, the transliteration is actually good. Although 'ṁ' or 'ⁿ' would be preferable to indicate the nasalization instead of 'ñ' for such words as दायाँ, since ñ is usually used for ञ्. Khirad^talk 08:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] taal?

i was reading the tabla page, and i feel that the essence of the instrument lies in an understanding of complex rythm. an explenation of the sum and various taals would be welcome.

also the concept of a khali or the third repetition in teen taal is very unique to our understanding of rythm.

I've added a link to tala under the See also heading. A brief article on tintal does exist.

Ferdinand Pienaar 10:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dugi tabla

On [1] it is stated 'the tabla or daina on the right and the banya or dugi on the left'. Can these terms be somehow added to the article? Wiki-uk 12:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Forget it, I found it in the section 'Nomenclature and construction'... Wiki-uk 12:12, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tuning

Does anyone have information on how to tune a tabla and use the hammer? Ozzykhan 15:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge

On 6/2/2007 I completed the proposed merger of tabla and tabla positioning. Looks good to me. Swsnow 20:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] disambiguation

The word "tabla" can refer to two different drums: the indian tabla, and the north african tabla, which narrow at the base (goblet shaped rather than rounded). As soon as I've written a halfway decent entry on the african tabla, I'll add a disambiguation page. --Wren-3^talk 12:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Throw out the baby with the bath water?

I have noticed recent edits from DaGizza on the 5th of July 2007 are very extreme. It goes to the point of excluding useful and relevant content from thye article in the name of POV. ALL the external links are gone as well as information about Gharanas etc. IMHO, someone who claims to be an Administrator should have at least tried to help by following the links to the other articles and then putting up a constructive suggestion or a citation tag etc. rather than indulging in disruptive edits. -Deepraj | Talk 09:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The May revision fest starting with Rohan's self promotion and ending with his removing the majority of the article and replacing it with a haphazard bullet list seems rash. I think this article is best served by returning it to its previous state and letting more thoughtful editors improve from there.

[edit] Wikipedia Tabla Taskforce

I've proposed a Wikipedia tabla taskforce so that the tabla page can be cleaned up and relevant references added. Also, so that the relevant 'splinter articles', such as bols, talas, etc., can be better maintained. Please express your interest here to get this taskforce up-and-running. Simon ives (talk) 04:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)