Talk:T. Colin Campbell

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The contents of the T. Colin Campbell article were merged into The China Study and they now redirect there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history.

[edit] Doesn't seem like proper criteria to delete

This article seems significant --SeanMcG 04:11, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Totally agree, but it's a CSD G7.--Dakota ~ ε 04:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it's just a PR blurb, ignoring good critics like: http://www.beyondveg.com/billings-t/comp-anat/comp-anat-8e.shtml http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/China-Study.html http://www.thepaleodiet.com/published_research/ (added later)

[edit] Let's refrain from unfair comments and links to clearly biased websites

To say this article is a "just a PR blurb" is unfair to this book and can only have been written by someone who has not read it. Like the book, this article is significant in the sense of being responsible, and the book is not only well written but meticulously documented. Neither "good" nor "well-documented" accurately describes the two clearly ideological and highly suspect web links you provide, Dakota. The first contains a mass of material written not by experts in nutrition but submitted by readers (also not experts in nutrition) and selected by the persons who run the site, who do not disclose how the site is supported. Much of the purported information is sarcastic "humor" satirizing vegans and vegetarians. Such attitudes poison the atmosphere of what should be a responsible discussion. You do not do yourself credit by linking to such sites. Even the sources page of this site merely provides more reason to indict it. The names of a great number of articles and studies are given without any link to what point the were supposed to support or defeat, and there are even several citations of scientific articles by Dr. Campbell himself. Nor are there any balancing views presented anywhere on either of these sites. Also telling is the fact that, on the former, the review Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book and Dr. Fuhrman's rebuttal have been deleted. I suspect I can guess why. --Gunnermanz 10:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I made a couple changes in the intro, by the way. I am just finishing this book now, and the correlation is not just between meat consumption and heart disease and cancer. If anything, a great number of the studies they cite, including Campbell's own early studies, show the effect of casein (the protein in milk) rather than meat in its realtionship not only to cancer but also Type 1 diabetes (which I have added to the innumeration of diseases).

--Gunnermanz 14:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Just a small point, Joel Fuhrman's book review and rebuttal were not deleted from the beyondveg website. The website just carried links to documents hosted on "www.waste.org". It seems that "lanshark" the owner of the documents closed his user account on this server.

I read a few things written by Campbell and it looks like he is a fanatic forcing his opinions on the data. His critics seem to have a much better scientific approach. I took a peek into the "China Project" published research papers and immediately found an article signed by Campbell himself showing that drinking milk help the bones. What is going on here?

Sorry, the "T. Colin Campbell" article and those related to it are highly biased and ignoring these excellent critics is a grave mistake. The Wikipedia project doesn't belong to fanatic vegans or Adventists...

[edit] Deletion criteria

Since this article seems to cover no actual biographical information and is essentially a rehash of information from The China Study, I think it should be deleted. Or at the very least merged with The China Study. --Gimme danger 08:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)