Talk:T-50 Golden Eagle

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Contents 1 Cleanup 2 Grammar 3 Recent edits 4 Calling a black spade a kettle?

[edit] Cleanup

Grammar could be tightened just a bit. Expansion would be nice, too... - Aerobird 02:38, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned it up considerably. Expansion would still be nice. :-) - Aerobird 03:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

How should I further expand it? Thanks (Wikimachine 05:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Grammar

The aircraft can carry up to two pilots, and the high amount canopy and the tandem seating allow the pilots superior visibility, vital to successfuly locking onto enemy targets.

What exactly is "high amount canopy" supposed to mean? High-mounted canopy? Even that doesn't mean much. I want to clean this up, but as I am unsure of the origianl intent, I am waiting. --BillCJ 19:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

It was supposed to be high-mounted canopy. Please go ahead & copy edit as much as you want. (Wikimachine 22:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC))

OK, thanks. That's what I thought it was supposed to be, but wasn't certain. --BillCJ 23:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

Could I ask anyone why some numbers on the statistics were deleted? (Wikimachine 23:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC))

Are you referring to this? A range given in feet smells of rat to me, and I wasn't too sure about a climb rate of 27,000 feet per minute...perhaps intial climb rate, but what's the sustained value? - Aerobird ^{Target locked - Fox One!} 01:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

No idea. I gathered data from 2 ~ 3 sites at the external links (& possibly references) that gave list of stats. (Wikimachine 02:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Calling a black spade a kettle?

Why do we call this plane a trainer? It has full-blown radar and the same type of single jet engine is found in the swedish Jas-39 Gripen fighter jet, the airframe size is also similar. The use of afterburner makes it a high-cost airplane, which is against any trainer use logic. This plane either makes no sense or it is actually a light fighter-bomber with a trainer excuse! 82.131.210.162 (talk) 14:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

We call it what the manufacturer(s) and customers designate it. The main version is intended for training. Some trainer aircraft carry weapons for practice and there's an attack version (A-50) too. It uses the F/A-18's F404 engine. The Gripen's RM12 engine is a derivative of the F404. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Concur with Fnlayson. the T-50 is what is called a "Lead-In FighterTrainer" (LIFT), and is intended to mimic high-performance fighters without the higher cost of aircraft like the F-16. THe F404 eninge is comparatively economical, though even I thought it was probably too big an engine for the role. However, the A-50 variant is intended to be a lower-cost fighter, so it does make sense. Alos, the T-50 is designed to be a replaces ment for the T-38, as both are supersonic. Remember that the F-5 is a minumu-change variant of the T-38, but that didn't make the T-38 any less of a trainer. Most advanced trainers nowadays are high subsonic, like the Hawk and Alpha Jet. The EADS Mako/HEAT is also supersonic, and it uses the F414, a more powerful derivitive of the F404. - BillCJ (talk) 16:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)