Talk:Sympathetic magic
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There's much more to be done here, so please let's no one have a cow just yet over anything I've done here. --DanielCD 02:19, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- I will birth no calves here. Most of the people involved have been dead for 100,000 years. FloNight talk 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
What about voodoo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.192.90.48 (talk • contribs)
[edit] References in popular culture
So a villain can only be killed if a certain object is destroyed. I've seen that in modern movies a lot. Should we maybe make a section somewhere where we list those?
Lord of the rings --> Sauron dies if the One Ring is destroyed
The Return of Jafar (sequel to Aladdin) --> the genie Jafar dies if his lamp is destroyed
Harry Potter --> Voldemort dies if all his horcruxes, which contain pieces of his soul, are destroyed.
--Mithcoriel (talk) 14:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- To avoid it being just a trivia list, is there a term for this connection or vicarious representation of the object in terms of villain? Or is it more like an effigy. I might take this to the ref desks and see what happens, Julia Rossi (talk) 01:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Voodoo?
When a villain can only be killed if a certain object is destroyed, eg in Lord of the rings, Sauron dies if the One Ring is destroyed; the genie Jafar dies if his lamp is destroyed; and in Harry Potter, Voldemort dies if all his horcruxes, which contain pieces of his soul, are destroyed. Is there a word for this objecting being more than just standing for, (apart from effigy) the villain? Julia Rossi (talk) 01:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Would "soul vessel" or "icon" fit the bill?--71.236.23.111 (talk) 01:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- How about phylactery?--Lenticel (talk) 02:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- That looks like a medicine bag to me. --71.236.23.111 (talk) 02:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- How about phylactery?--Lenticel (talk) 02:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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- They all sound like it. I'll put those in a see also at the end of the article and maybe a section with links. Thanks for your help. Julia Rossi (talk) 04:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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- You are no doubt aware that "phylactery" is a word in its own right having nothing to do with all this, borrowed without permission for the obscure fictional mumbo-jumbo. Frazer could come up with nothing better than "soul-box" (p. 680) to contain the "external soul". Incidentally. in poking around I discovered what I think I used to know, that the "Host" of the Eucharist is not the same word as the ordinary "host" but instead derives from the Latin for "sacrifice". I was hoping it would have to do with "hosting" the soul or something of Christ, but no. --Milkbreath (talk) 10:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Katschei is also famous for this. 134.96.105.72 (talk) 08:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- <nitpick alert> Sauron doesn't die. He is just rendered impotent (Viagra endorsement time?). </nitpick alert> Clarityfiend (talk) 16:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- One of the other examples has a similar inaccuracy. Spoiler here. --Anon, 00:06 UTC, May 30, 2008.
- This is so helpful, I'm copying the whole thread to the talk page. Julia Rossi (talk) 00:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
