Talk:Sylvie Vartan
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Sylvie Vartan was the first rock female singer in France. She remained the number one female singer in France during 25 years and is as popular in Japan, Italy, Spain, Germany... She has sold 40 millions copies records, has done 2000 covers around the world and more than anything is the number one stage performer in France, all her concerts from 1961 up to 2005 in the Palais des Congres (4000 seats) in 2005 has always been sold out ! In France she is the only one who have such popularity during the last 40 years which put her as a legend on the same level as Edith Piaf. She has been singing also in Las Vegas where Travolta, Gene kelly...came to see her, Atlantic City, Los Angeles. Back in the 7os , she was elected the most popular french woman of all time in front of political, sports..figures. Beautiful and talented, she an icon and her autobiography published in 2004 was a best-seller.
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Sylvie Vartan.jpg
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[edit] WikiProject class rating
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[edit] GA failed
Mostly on referencing issues. Here are some things that need citations (there are lots more).
- "In 1952, Dako Dakovski, a film director and father Georges' friend, offered Sylvie a role of a schoolgirl in the movie "Pod igoto". The film was about Bulgarian rebels against the Turkish occupation. Being a part of the film had a lasting impression on her and made her dream to become an entertainer."
- "The promiscuity and privations of the postwar Bulgaria made the family emigrate to Paris in December 1952."
- "The artist's songs have been covered by David Hallyday, Patricia Kaas, Alain Souchon, Isabelle Boulay, Francis Cabrel, Axelle Red, Etienne Daho, Françoise Hardy, Lara Fabian, Lola Dutronic and the Wildside."
- "In May 1969, at a concert in Teheran, Vartan encouraged the unknown Mike Brand to start a career in Paris."
- "In 2005, the singer was appointed as WHO Goodwill Ambassador for Maternal and Child Health in the European Region."
- Entire "Personal life" section.
Also, you should combine the <ref> tags (see WP:FOOTNOTE) using <ref name=multiple></ref>....<ref name=multiple /> for links to the same page. Please leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions. — Dihydrogen Monoxide 03:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unfree image in infobox
Please stop vandalizing. As Wikipedia guidelines state, the purpose of an infobox is not merely showing, what a person looks like, but giving an overview on the topic. The videos of Sylvie Vartan's concerts at the Olympia of Paris are a substantial part of her legacy, which is discussed in the lead and the following sections in detail. Cover art is in place in the info box next to the lead section. More than a quarter of the photos used in the infoboxes of good articles about artists are licensed as fair use. Usage of cover art in infoboxes of good articles is a normal practice, including the Sex Pistols, Disco 2000 and Deborah Kerr. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikupoeg (talk • contribs) 23:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- You seem to be as unfamiliar with Wikipedia's basic civility policy as you are with its non-free content policy. Deborah Kerr is deceased, and both The Sex Pistols and Disco 2000 have long ceased to exist. Sylvie Vartan however is very much alive (and even performing), and for living people the use of unfree images is not considered appropriate. (The cover of an album is considered appropriate in an article about that album, and screenshot from a film might be considered appropriate in an article about that film, but that is not an excuse to take such a cover or screenshot and use it anywhere where it comes handy. There are other unfree images in the article whose use is questionable, I only removed the most extreme one.)
- See also Talk:Mina (singer).
- Regards, High on a tree (talk) 02:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Category 'Artistry'?
This category says almost exactly the same thing than the beginning of the introduction. I don't know exactly what is Wikipedia policy about that and I've noticed the same phenomenon in other articles but here, I really can't see any justification. It doesn't seem useful. Would it be possible to delete this category or maybe changing the introduction? Unless there is a good reason, of course. Miscellanées (talk) 00:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia policy about the lead section, the lead does not state any different facts, than the article, but is a concise overview on the topic. The point is, that the lead should give you the topic in a nutshell. Erikupoeg (talk) 13:40, 15 March 2008 (GMT)
[edit] Much improvement needed
There are tons of problems in this article, I don't have time myself to clean it up, so I just added a cleanup tag that I suggest remains until this article is completely Wiki-compliant, which will take some work. In the intro alone, there is POV (referenced, presumably the idea is the idea is that if it's written somewhere, it makes it fact, but citing a subjective opinion from an article still means it is subjective, ie POV), grammatical problems and and factual errors. Notably, Vartan was not the first female rock singer (or 'rock and rolling lady', as it is oddly put here) in France: I'm not sure who is credited to being the 'first' exactly, but e.g. Hedika and Nicole Paquin came earlier). And there is an instance of plagiarism, the phrase "energetic presence and impish cuteness" taken directly from the cited page, but not quoted (it's POV anyway). Skimming the article, I see these problems aren't confined to the intro, but continue, e.g. POV here: "No longer a timid young yéyé girl but a sexy dancer". I'm finding many yé-yé-related articles to lack credible sources, be full of embellishments and POV, and flouting multiple Wiki rules. I hope to see that change. Spikedcandy (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've cleaned the page from the embellishments, You pointed out, except for 'no longer a timid young girl, but a sexy dancer'-phrase. For goodness sake, this is an article about a French sex symbol, not the President of Bulgaria! Sylvie Vartan's act did turn from a timid girl to a sexy dancer and that's a certifiable fact. If there's anything else, just point it out and I'll do something about it.User:Erikupoeg
