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Please note also: SWORDS (Special Weapons Observation Reconnaissance Detection System)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWORDS

Don't worry, 2 links are in english language --217.64.171.188 18:02, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Irish Language Name

With relation to the Irish language name for Swords, I would say it is "Sórd Choilm Cille", meaning "the sward of St. Collumcille". I'll leave it for a while and see if anyone has another opinion. Bolak77 16:38, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Swords Castle

As far as I am aware Swords Castle was built in the 13th or 14th centuries so the tidbit about Brian Boru, i believe, is incorrect.

  1. Thats Correct, The Castle was built for the Archbishop of Dublin in Medieval times.
  1. Brian Boru was taken to the Catholic Monastery in Swords founded by St. Colmcille after he died. It Most Cerainly existed at the time of the battle of Clontarf.

[edit] Proposing a move to Swords, Fingal

This article currently resides at Swords, Dublin, but as is clear from the article text itself, it should more properly be at Swords, Fingal. I propose moving it there. Comments? Bastun 17:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no COunty Fingal. It should stay where it is.

Actually, there's no County Dublin. Read Fingal and it's talk page for verification. Bastun 00:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I think this issue would be best discussed on the talk page of WP:IMOS as though your technically quite correct it could be controversial and would need endorsement and acceptance by Irish editors if to be implemented in a meaningful way. Djegan 00:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Yep. Did a search for ", Dublin" earlier and there's actually quite a lot of towns and suburbs listed as "Wherever, Dublin" that should more properly be under Fingal, South Dublin or Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown. Proposing moves one by one would be slow and, as you say, will probably be controversial. Will post about it on WP:IMOS tomorrow when I'm more awake. Bastun 01:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Where is the discussion agreeing to the abrupt, and apparently undiscussed, move of Swords, Dublin (meaningful to most people) to Swords, Fingal (not meaningful). To most, the 26 traditional counties are the only ones that matter, and Fingal / South Dublin / etc. are no more significant than the patchwork they made of the Six Counties, or back in 1972/1974 of the whole UK system! Fingal County Council is simply one of three administrative authorities in the County of Dublin, and that will be so for a long time, regardless of legislation (some people mistake law for reality but WP's collective wisdom should be able to do better). 83.250.96.225 (talk) 12:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Here. Djegan (talk) 16:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! But that discussion concluded, noting especially WP:COMMONNAME, that the designation of "Swords, Fingal" should NOT be implemented as primary, but only as a redirect to Swords, Dublin, so let's do that commonsense thing. 83.250.96.225 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
(de-indent) I will leave it to one of the three very active editors involved in that discussion to reverse the non-agreed move, leaving this as a redirect page to Swords, Dublin. It is great to see that WP can have the sort of discussion I hoped for. 83.250.96.225 (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Done. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 23:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Social mix section

Not sure if the following under Modern Swords is meaningful or encyclopedic, especially the schools bit, which seems to have been written to "explain away" the "disadvantage tag", edited, and then edited again to stress the disadvantage issue:

As such, it might be said that the town never experiences full-scale middle-class, neither does it experience any major problems associated with large-scale disadvantage. The fact that two of the towns' four secondary schools are designated as disadvantaged[1] (St. Finian's C.C. and Fingal C.C.), and the other two (Loreto College Swords and Colaiste Choilm) are not, shows how complex the social mix is.

I have put the explanation of the VEC term disadvantage in a reference, as it is just one body's term, not an absolute. 217.213.75.145 08:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amenities

I've removed the Links to Roganstown, and "Swords" Open Golf Club as they add nothing to the Article and are Merely there to advertise the two Golf Courses (Owned by the Same Family), besides the only Golf Courses in Swords itself are Forest Little and Swords Open, Roganstown is Part of Ballyboughal. Stabilo boss 10:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

    • Roganstown is a townland in the Parish of Ballyboughal, Advertising it as "Swords" makes it easier to Sell for the owners. It is bordered By Skiddoo (Ballyboughal) Lispopple (Rolestown) and Saucerstown (Swords). The Phone Number (Allocated by Exchange, Which is set down by the Local Exchange, definded by P&T, the forerunners of An Post and Telecom Eireann, is 01 8433 xxx which is the phone no. for the Ballyboughal / Oldtown Exchange. If it were in Swords they would be allocated a Swords No. Roganstown I'm afraid is in Ballyboughal. see Fingal County Council Map The Green area is Swords the Blue is not. Besides the Main reason I deleted the reference was because it was SPAM. Wikipedia is not an Advertising Platform. Stabilo boss 15:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)