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This is what happens when you're really, really bored at work.

Request for Comment

As you are the user who initially cleaned up Lincoln (now home of the disambiguation page), I would like to request you voice your opinion on Talk:Lincoln about ordering of prominence. I regret to say User:Noitall has devolved into personal attacks and is unlikely to contribute to the argument at this point in time, so if we wish to come to some kind of decision other input will be required. Agriculture 03:09, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Please be aware that Agriculture is an incredible vandal, stalker and attacker. I apologize for discussing this on your talk page. --Noitall 04:28, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

My apologies that User:Noitall has decided to use your page as a forum to slander me. Please be aware that there is currently an RfC pending against him filed by me for his actions (Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Noitall). Agriculture 04:31, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Slander is spoken. Libel is written. Stack 13:09, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Merge

You merged two disticnt articles when you combined the Niobrara river with Niobrara National Scenic River...bluntly, I consider doing this without a word of note on the talk page there or in my user talk (since I created the scenic river article) to be rude. Next time, perhaps bring it to discussion first.--MONGO 01:25, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Fort Atkinson (Nebraska), which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Inaccurate?

I noticed your revert at Nebraska. I'm certain that UNL were formerly the Bugeaters; in fact, there was a billboard to that effect outside of Memorial Stadium for years (it may still be there, I'm not sure). What part did you consider inaccurate? — Dan | Talk 05:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

The timeline listed in the paragraph was wrong. The "Bugeaters" nickname was used for the UNL football team during the 1890s; not during and after the Dust Bowl of the 1930s. In any case, the Huskers page is probably a more suitable place for such information...

The Bugeaters billboard isn't up this year, but, as always, the stores here in Lincoln do good business selling "Nebraska Bugeaters" shirts, caps, and all things red. --Swid 05:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Nebraska-stub

Hi - I note you've recently created a new stub category. Did you realise that stub categories should normally be cleared by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting before creation? That way they can be vetted to check that there are a viable number of stubs (at least 60-100) and that the category does not cross the existing stub hierarchy before the stub is created.

The stub type has been nominated for deletion at WP:SFD. Several individual state-related stub templates have been deleted in recent months, since these are usually only allowed if there is a specific WikiProject for those states. There were four stubs marked with nebraska-stub, two of which should - if such existed - have been marked as Nebraska-geo-stub. Becaus there is no such stub type (and currently there are only about 15 Nebraska geography stubs), they should have been marked with US-midwest-geo-stub.

One more thing - the single most important thing a stub template must have is a category. Otherwise, you're just consigning the stubs marked into the void, probably never to be seen by the editors who should be seeing them. I have created a Category:Nebraska stubs for the template, and have done null-edits on the articles with the template to make sure they go in there, for now at least. Grutness...wha? 09:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject:Nebraska proposal

I'd like to find out if there is any interest in starting a WikiProject:Nebraska. The quality and/or length of Nebraska articles (beyond those for the state itself, Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska) isn't all that great. In addition, articles providing more detailed information about the state (history, economy, politics, etc.) don't exist at all. Given the amount of work I've done on Nebraska-related articles in the past, I am a bit leery of putting so much of my own imprint on this reasonably large subject area. Therefore, if you would be interested in setting up a WikiProject:Nebraska, reply in this section. –Swid 15:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I've from Nebraska. I could help, but I only know things about Lincoln and some minior information about Omaha. I've worked on the Lincoln Journal Star, Lincoln East High School and other highschools in Lincoln, Coleen Seng, and Category:Astronomical observatories in Nebraska--Rayc 03:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

You could put it up on Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List of proposed projects and see if anyone else wants to join.--Rayc 16:35, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Mopac Trail

You may know something about this trail...please expand if possible as it is up for AFD.--MONGO 09:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sand Hills

The Nebraska Sandhills article is found under "Sand Hills." I have never seen them written using two words. Everywhere I have seen them, from churches, posters, state historical markers, etc., have always used the one word "Sandhills." Is it possible to change the title of the article? Some nuancing would need be done to distinguish it from the Carolina Sandhills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.190.67.65 (talk • contribs) 03:34 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Both “Sand Hills” and “Sandhills” seem to be in common use; a quick Google search backs that up. That being said, “Sandhills” does appear to be somewhat more common overall. (The same also appears to hold for the Carolina region.) I'll look into this further. –Swid 16:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

township article names

I just moved Adams Township, Nebraska back. Then I noticed that you had moved several others as well. If you want to move it back, I don't care that strongly. In general, the article names for townships in U.S. states only include the county name if it is necessary to disambiguate them from other townships with the same name in the same state (i.e., they follow the general principle of only disambiguating where necessary). I completely understand that townships are considered as subdivisions of a county, and I once tried to do something similar with Towns in Wisconsin (which are more or less equivalent to townships in other midwest states) to distinguish them from cities and villages. But others came along later and moved things back and being only tangentially interested in Wisconsin I gavve up the effort. Unless you are planning to do this systematically and to have some sort of WikiProject to provide guidance on how these are to be named, you might want to reconsider moving too more. Cheers. older≠wiser 20:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I had looked at the discussion you guys had over at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. counties before moving them; however, I only read the very bottom of that section and, uh, kinda missed the intervening discussion where it was decided that having township articles w/o county names was OK. :-\

As a matter of fact, I have been talking with some other people about starting a Wikiproject for Nebraska; hopefully, something will come of that. I thought about going through and manually creating some Nebraska township pages, but then I downloaded the master FIPS list...I may have to learn how to write a bot.

In any case, it's no biggie; I'll leave them alone for the time being. –Swid 20:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Cowboy Trail, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

User:Rayc/Nebraska

I didn't see that you had started the talk page. Sure you can mark what ever you have done or are doing. On another note, how did you make that template? I'm trying to get one on the Senators as well.--Rayc 18:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I copied the template format from Template:CAGovernors. I haven't seen a template for U.S. Senators from any state, so a further modification of the governors template may be the best option. –Swid 20:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

U. S. Rep box

Question, if you don't mind: I'm wondering how that U.S. Rep succession box works. I'm noticing that you used it in several articles, e.g. Gilbert Hitchcock. I ask because I can't find the template, but I wanted to write an analogous one for Senators. Thanks! --Deville 03:39, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

The template is at Template:USRepSuccessionBox. Check with Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Congress for more information. –Swid 20:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Ponca

Point taken regarding the history of the name of the town.

However, the park's founding clearly came after 1879. (That does not, of course, mean that you are wrong.) If you have access to the minutes of the Ponca American Legion minutes persuant to the donation of the original parkland, they likely provide clarification. Please note that my revision regarding Standing Bear in the article is now along the lines of his connection to the Tribe for whom the park and town are clearly named. The fact that Standing Bear was an historically very important member of the very tribe for which the town and park are named makes it well worth naming him in the article. Alos, consider that potential visitors might be quite interested in this connection. The State of Nebraska has apparently made that consideration in their webpage on the park. I appreciate your insistence on correctness. Regards, Jerry Jerry picker 21:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

US Collaboration of the week

You have voted for Omaha, Nebraska on the USCOTW. It was selected to be this week's collaboration. You are invited to help to contribute in order to improve Omaha, Nebraska in any way possible.

Titles

Most episode titles have their relevant show regardless. Examples - The Pilot (Friends). Sorry if this is wrong, I have enough shouting at me today.. H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

page move

About your comment to Sceptre's talk page, you do know you don't have to be an admin to move pages, right? I LovEPlankton 19:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Asian currencies template

I saw you added the Asian currencies template to United States dollar. Where in Asia is it the official currency?? Georgia guy 21:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

sprotected

No, I'm not an admin-- so there are other steps to use sprotect? I gather from your question that at some point there is some piece that can only be put in place by an admin? In any case, I've seen the template message have the desired effect by itself. -- Mwanner | Talk 21:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I see the steps involved, and the way it's limited to admins. Too bad... I suppose there is sense that it would be abused? -- Mwanner | Talk 21:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

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Nebraska Sand Hills

I saw that, but it just doesn't make sense if the article itself calls them the Sand Hills (two words). The title and the verbage used in the article should match. Additionally, most official sources (USGS, NOAA, USDA) seem to call them the "Sand Hills." I'll be happy to move them back, but it just doesn't seem right. howch e ng {chat} 19:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm not convinced that "Sandhills (Nebraska)" is the best way to disambiguate. Per WP:D it's better to avoid using parentheses when possible. "Nebraska Sandhills" or "Nebraska Sand Hills" IMHO are far better because both of them are in common usage. The same issue is popping up with respect to state highways (see WT:CASH#Arguments_from_PHenry and the following section). However, if you would prefer not to revisit this whole thing and you're sure consensus has settled on the current naming scheme, that's fine with me too. howch e ng {chat} 19:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Nebraska User Boxes

Thanks for adding Nebraska to the list of education userboxes. Note, however, that these are education boxes, not fan boxes. Up until now, there has been a voluntary limit of one box per school (usually "attends or attended"). Please take a look and pick or create a single box for your school. Thanks for contributing. --NThurston 22:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I based the Nebraska userbox off of the {{User longhorn}} template; both templates use m:ParserFunctions for added functionality and customization. It *is* one user box, just with different parameters. Anyway, I'll remove the non-education boxes from that page. – Swid ^{(talk | edits)} 22:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- OH; the Texas template has changed its default behavior since when i used it as a model. My bad. – Swid ^{(talk | edits)} 22:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I added some text on the Nebraska template page so people will know more clearly that there are multiple options. I also cleaned up the talk page so that it incorporates the template directly, reflecting immediately any changes to the template. --NThurston 13:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Nebraska seal

No, you haven't gotten in over your head :) I seriously applaud you for your efforts! BRAVO! This is how it is supposed to be done! As to the exchange, it's pretty clear from their statement that use of the seal is under a non-commercial license. Per decree Jimbo Wales in May of 2005 ([1]), non-commercial use only images are not acceptable at Wikipedia. Thus, even if you gained official release from them for educational use, we could not use the seal under any other terms than fair use. Thus, I would respond to them that you thank them for their response and effort in so doing, but that a non-commercial release of the seal is not inline with policies of Wikipedia at this time, since we strive to have images free of restrictions for use or used strictly under a fair use doctrine, which the seal is currently used under. --Durin 14:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Notifying commons: Go for it :) If you don't feel capable, I can handle it...but you've got to start somewhere :) --Durin 14:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Swid, for your efforts in ascertaining the actual copyright status of the Seal of Nebraska by contacting the government of the State of Nebraska regarding the issue (1) , I hereby award you the Barnstar of Diligence. You conducted yourself in an absolutely proper manner in verifying the copyright status of this image, doing it the right way. I have never before awarded a barnstar to anyone. Your impressive display of diligence in this effort motivated me to do so. --Durin 15:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Census Estimates

Your site here shows a metropolitan population of 813,170 people. http://www.census.gov/popest/counties/files/CO-EST2005-ALLDATA.csv

This is a 2005 list of counties located inside metropolitan areas http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/metro_general/List1.txt

There are currently only 8 counties in the Omaha-Council Bluffs metropolitan area.

Harrison County, IA-25,734

Mills County, IA-486,929

Pottawattamie County, IA-139,371

Cass County, NE-20,458

Douglas County, NE-19,772

Sarpy County, NE-15,884

Saunders County, NE-15,284

Washington County, NE-89,738

=813,170

Edit: Thank you for listening and correcting it

--KCMODevin 14:16, 7 June 2006

The confusion stems from Omaha being part of both a Metropolitan Statistical Area and a Combined Statistical Area with the Fremont, Nebraska micropolitan area. You're correct in pointing out that the combined population of those eight counties is 813,170. However, when the Dodge County, Nebraska population is added in for the CSA total, the population estimate rises to 849,248.

For some reason, other editors to the Omaha article like to mix and match the numbers and years used; I have to fix them periodically. I'm glad there's at least one other person out there who actually bothers to look up the underlying Census data. :-) – Swid ^{(talk | edits)} 19:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I know for Kansas City, we have an MSA and a CSA, the MSA is something like 1.98 million (I think) and the CSA is over 2 million.

-- KCMODevin

Pershing Rifles edits

Per the Pershing Rifles page, I am wondering why you delinked the years. I was under the impression that we were to link years just as we link to other articles. This, because the year in which something happened, put in the context of other events that happened the same year or date in history, gives the reader a better idea of what was going on in the world at the same time of the event in question.

Also, you changed "the Ohio State group" to "the Ohio group." The group spoken of is not just from the State of Ohio, but rather Ohio State University (mentioned at the beginning of the paragraph). To avoid confusion, I'm going to change that back with clarification added. Thanks. ScreaminEagle 20:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I delinked standalone years as (as best I can tell) there's been a quasi-consensus that years only should be linked if there's a day and month to go along with it. For a MUCH more in-depth discussion of that particular debate, wander over to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers).

As for the Ohio edit, I just made an arbitary decision as to which way to go with that. Therefore, I assure you that my feelings aren't horribly hurt if you've changed and clarified it. :-) – Swid ^{(talk | edits)} 20:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. I read the debate (wow) and as far as I can tell, there is only a "quasi-consensus" to deleting stand-alone years if it's after 1970 since they are the most over-linked years and are therefore annoying. Prior to 1970 there isn't as much information and fewer links so some people care, some people don't. Personally, I was just looking for a rule to follow in the future and apparently there isn't much of one other than it's left to the editor's descretion in a majority of the situations. I'm fine with leaving the years delinked; I'm not exactly losing sleep over this. :) Thanks again for the link--very interesting. Go Big Red. ScreaminEagle 02:04, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On June 9, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nebraska admiral, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Nebraska

Have you been able to find anyone else interest in doing this?--Rayc 05:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)