Talk:Suzuki Hayabusa

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[edit] Speed #s?

The #s on 1/4 mile times and top speed thru the 1/4 mile wer 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The quarter miles figures were correct before, they should be reverted pls see [1]—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireblade (talk • contribs) 6 June 2006


[edit] Stub

I'm removing the stub tag, since this does not seem the case anymore. nihil 21:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MSRP

I don't think having MSRP is relevant. Even if it is, I don't think this is the correct place. MSRP can change year to year and won't be accurate.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Budlight (talk • contribs) 19 September 2006

The linked MSRP article explains that. It is useful to give an order of magnitude for the price: this isn't a one million dollar bike, neither a ten bucks one. --Marc Lacoste 08:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I agree a price range is useful information. I changed the have to has and added ~'s to all the prices to show that they are estimates. That should convey what you are looking to convey more accurately in my opinion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Budlight (talk • contribs)
the MSRP is a fixed data, given by the manufacturer, with references. --Marc Lacoste 17:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
The MSRP is also useful for comparative analysis -- consider a schoolchild writing a paper of the average cost of horsepower, in dollars. This is encylopedic data. ... aa:talk 06:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Performance

I've kinda gotten tired of the bad information that has been consistently supplied in this article. I have changed the numbers to one that came from a much more updated and reliable source. The previous source was over 7 years old and the information listed wasn't even quoted right in the article. If you have a problem with this, bring a source that is both from a major publication and that was updated after October 2005. If they aren't, just don't even bother. What would be even better is if it was a comparision test between the Hayabusa and the ZX-14 since these are the two major players in the hyper sport market. Thoughts? Roguegeek (talk) 02:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I could not quite figure out who contributed the street performance numbers for the new model, but since they were unreferenced and obviously uncorrect I removed them. Sorry for deleting, I know it takes an effort to contribute. A 2008 Hayabusa will give you 0-60 under 3 seconds and an electronically limited topspeed of 186 mph in 5th and 6th gear. Shark Abuser (talk) 07:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

While stating hp numbers, everybody please mind the difference between crank hp and rear wheel hp, as well as the difference between US hp and European hp. A regular US Hayabusa dyno run will bring up between 150 and 155 (rear wheel) hp for a 1999-2007 model. European performance sheets will state 175 (crank) hp for the same bike. Shark Abuser (talk) 07:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I do NOT agree with ANY of the numbers in this article. New UPDATED numbers should NOT be used at ALL on the models between 1999-2000. I have complete and utter proof that a 1999 Hayabusa in England was LIDAR clocked at 200.2 MPH in DEAD STOCK form. I had purchased a BRAND NEW stock Hayabusa in 1999, the FIRST thing I did was take it to a Dyno shop in Knoxville Tennessee. This was a HARLEY dealership and they did NOT like my bike being there. However, they ran it on the dyno, the DAY AFTER I purchased the bike. I had NO TIME to mod it at ALL. It performed at 168RWHP. This can be documented by calling or posting the printout from the DYNO results from Harley of Knoxville.

It should also be noted that the speedometer on the 1999-2000 bikes read 220MPH while the late 2001 to current read 185MPH. The 1999-2000 Bike operated WAY differently then the later models.

The 1999-2000 had a 16 bit ECM(Electronic Control Module) made by Nippon Denso. The late 2001 to late 2007 versions have a 32 bit ECM. While the 2008 version has been completely changed in every way.

So honestly, they are 3 different bikes, with 3 different behaviors. I believe these things are worth mentioning on the main page.

[edit] Model year

If you apply your rationale on model year to every automotive article on Wikipedia, we'd have to append "model year" to all year related content to every article. Good thing the content of the article actually says:

"This increased competition would eventually lead to Suzuki heavily revising the GSX1300R for the 2008 model year."

Roguegeek (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Model year is generally used in the US, but not the rest of the world. Wikipedia is an international resource. The "2008 model year bike" was launched and is on sale in 2007. At the very least the section heading should be 2007 - just as the 1999 section heading refers to the bike's launch in 1999 not the 1999 model year. I see no problem talking about 2008 model year as long as it is clear that this is in calendar year 2007. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 20:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I've changed the year back to 2008. If you want to change it back, please provide enough fully cited source that contradict the three already existing fully cited sources that say it's on the 2008 Hayabusa. Roguegeek (talk) 18:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Here are a couple more refs I'll throw in if need be.
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Bottom line is that even though the new Hayabusa was available in 2007, it was introduced for 2008. You go to any dealership worldwide and the invoice will say 2008. Thoughts? Roguegeek (talk) 18:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
In the USA maybe, but the bottom line to me is that the bike was introduced in calendar year 2007. If you want to talk about 2008 model year, feel free but use that phraseology in the table and section heading. If the two of use can't agree then let's go to wikiproject motorcycling and ask for some consensus. IMHO years on their own refer to calendar years. If 2008 is used to mean something else then it should be fully qualified. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 18:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
It should really be the other way around. Original edits showed 2008. It's your dispute that it is not. Escalate if need be. I'll find the previous WikiProject discussions about this topic in the mean time. Roguegeek (talk) 18:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Discussion started in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorcycling. Agree to leave article as-is for the moment. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 19:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BHP

The BHP figures for both(for 1999-2007 and 2008) should be the same scale, either crank or rear wheel , at the moment the 1999-2007 section shows RWBHP(156.1) and the 2008 section shows CBHP(194) ,ty Dognosh (talk) 16:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Pop-culture section per WP:TRIVIA guideline

Given the WP:TRIVIA guideline I would like to propose the deletion of the section Hayabusa in popular culture since there has been a failure to properly integrate that section into the text.

Also IMO the content of that section fails to meet the WP:REL guideline since the bollywood movie Dhoom has absolutelly nothing to do with the Hayabusa. ⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 05:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] changed controversy

changed the term "timing retard" to "timing lock" since it could have been offensive, who ever wrote that, your personal oppinion should stay out of a factual webpage, this is user edited, yes, but, your personal oppinion should stay out of this, get a live journal if you want to rant to the world.

(Racerboy (talk) 02:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC))


Try looking up what a timing retard is before accusing me of ranting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_timing

http://www.hayabusacentral.co.uk/shop/product.asp?idproduct=31

http://www.mpsracing.com/products/Schnitz/ho01.asp


(Micky750k (talk) 09:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC))