Talk:Suze Rotolo

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[edit] Charles Flato

No point in removing Charles Flato factoid. Digby

This little POV rant by an anonymous user is quite bizzare, "The elder Rotolos also were acquainted with people named Goldstien, Miller, Steinberg, Zuckerman, and many others smeared by the McCarthyite libel machine."

I don't know what this person is trying to prove but it is obvious they don't like reference to Charlie Flato, the Soviet spy and Rotolo's family. Just because it took the files of the Soviet Union to be available before Flato was discovered to be a spy does not mean that he wasn't. apparently the government didn't do enough because I would have loved to see this little dwarf strung up for his being a traitor to his country! So old Joe McCarthy didn't do enough to catch these traitorous spies.

If the anon thinks that people are trying to trash the Rotolo family I don't believe that is so. Otherwise the Communist Party would be much more prominent in the article wouldn't it? Anyway, the stuff about Flato is in the Flato article. Digby 14:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] discussion of Rotolo etc.

I'm not trying to be anonomous just didn't work the buttons right.... in any case didn't mean to rant, was trying to make a point in a kidding way by listing random other New-Yorkish names as examples that the Rotolos knew a lot of people, as did most middle class New Yorkers (my parents included) in the 30's to the 50's ...could we leave out the random other names (everybody in NY knows a Goldstien...) Charles Flato was never arrested, as far as I can tell by reading about the case, and I'm not sure the accusations were true, but in reading references, he is so widely accused that it is useless to argue it at this late date. Still, if a guy wasn't ever convicted in this country, it's unfair to stick him with the name of a crime, isn't it? Karmu2

[edit] Censorship Issue

The below information has been removed twice by an anonymous user using an IP:Adress from WGBH in Allston, Massachusetts. Why would someone who works for Public Television be censoring an article? I'm totally confused. I thought that we were suppose to be against censorship! Flipsod2 19:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

"She became pregnant in 1963 by Dylan and decided to have an abortion. Also important, but less often noted, the influence of Bertolt Brecht on Dylan's songwriting and performing has been acknowledged by Dylan as stemming from her participation in Brechtian theater during their relationship. Dylan's interest in painting can also be traced back to his relationship with Rotolo.

She travelled to Cuba in June of 1964, with a group, at a time when it was unlawful for Americans to do so, according to a July 1, 1964 article in the New York Times. In an August 19, article in the same publication she is quoted as saying, in regards to opponents of Fidel Castro that, "These gusanos are not suppressed. There can be open criticism of the regime. As long as they keep it to talk they are tolerated, as long as there is no sabotage." 'Gusanos' means worms."

[edit] Suicide Source

Although it is relatively common for someone to feel depressed and suicidal after having an abortion, what is the source that Rotolo attempted suicide after having her abortion? If this cannot be sourced then it would be appropriate to remove this reference from the article especially since the subject is presumably still living. Dwain 18:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Pietro Pezzati Fabrication

I have to say that I am irked by the information that Suze Rotolo apparently claims in her book that her uncle Peter Pezzati was a believer in Mussolini and Fascism. Never once did I ever hear Peter say anything favorable about Mussolini or Fascism. He'd talk about art, literature, architecture, music, travel and history and like his father could speak half a dozen languages. He was the closet thing to a genius I've ever encountered.

If true that Suze would say what is claimed, giving the impresssion that he of was a follower of Mussolini and a Fascist, I'm angry and perplexed. Peter always was very nice to her and spoke well about her. Why would she suggest such a thing and propogate such a myth to readers? I realize that many hippies believed anyone who didn't subscribe to their political views was a Facist but this is just too much.

Peter served in the U.S. Army during W.W. II illustrating manuals and painting war posters. He even was heard on Boston radio supporting the war effort. Her suggestion that he was a "believer" in Fascism and Mussolini is an out and out fabrication, which makes me wonder what else she isn't truthful about in her book. Friuli (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)