Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ron liebman

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

1 User:Ron liebman

[edit] User:Ron liebman

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Ron liebman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log · rfcu)

Ron liebman user ID first appeared on January 30, 2007.

[edit] Suspected sockpuppets

[edit] Indef blocked already, provided as additional documentation

Isidore wax (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared April 22. CU confirmed
Irene liebman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)) -> First appeared March 24. CU confirmed
Moe kaplan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 5. CU confirmed
Robert scheinblum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 12. CU confirmed
Rasheed wilds (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 12. CU confirmed
Isidore was (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 14. CU confirmed
Jos martinez (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 15. Claims not to be Liebman. CU confirmed
Emily ciorciari (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 15. CU confirmed
Michael ing (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 15. CU confirmed
Frank scelta (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 15. CU confirmed
Eddie gold (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 15. CU confirmed
Gamere (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 19. CU confirmed
Mikemaddog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 20. CU confirmed
Ted ditullio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 9. CU confirmed
Evelyn m. begley (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 8. CU confirmed
Cynthia roberts (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 8. CU confirmed
Alvin berrios (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 22. CU confirmed
Di Tullion (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 22. CU confirmed
Ross adell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 17. CU confirmed
Rick dempsey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 14. CU confirmed
Mischa gelman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 23.
Joe nunziatta (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 25.
Steven nadel (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 25.
Lynn samuels (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 25.
Joya das (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) -> First appeared May 25.

[edit] Possible related IPs

[edit] Report submission by

--Ebyabe 20:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evidence

Though User:Ron liebman's account was blocked, he is manifesting through a variety of other user accounts and anonymous IPs. He always makes the same edits (primarily birth or death date changes), without providing sources in the articles. He only provides "documentation" in the edit summaries. He has been asked repeatedly, but never puts citations for his changes in the articles themselves.

He also changes the entry for the actor Ron Leibman to include how the actor is often confused with the baseball biographer Ron Liebman (note the reversed "i" and "e" between the names). (The user has, in fact, hijacked the names of several actual members of the Society for American Baseball Research in creating his sockpuppet accounts.)

[edit] Checkuser

A checkuser case [1] has been run and confirms that as of May 23, 2007, the accounts listed are all sockpuppets. This reaffirms that the behavior-based identification methods used so far are accurate and correct.

[edit] Accounts affected

Non-Baseball related
Escitalopram
Elisabeth Hasselbeck
Joy Behar
The View

More baseball, occasionally vandalised by him
1935 in baseball
1936 in baseball
1940 in baseball
1960 in baseball
1961 in baseball
Cap Anson
Chief Bender
Christy Mathewson
Eddie Cicotte
Edward Caraballo
Ernie Banks
Frankie Frisch
Fred Haney
Frisch
Gil Hodges
Harry Chappas
Johnny Pesky
Larry MacPhail
List of Major League Baseball individual streaks
Major League Baseball titles leaders
Major League Baseball titles streaks
Mike Sharperson
MLB consecutive games played streaks
Paul Dean
Ron Santo
Sam Jones (baseball)
Sam Rice
Vada Pinson

[edit] Comments

This has been going on since at least early April, with no signs of stopping. Even if all the accounts are blocked, I believe he'll continue through other accounts. But at least this way, there's an official record here of his activities, for future reference.

This is also the first time I've done one of these, so I hope I'm proceeding correctly. Please advise if you need more info or anything.

Oh, and he exceeds 3RR, if you count his various identities. And sometimes even when you don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebyabe (talk • contribs)

He also reverts the Escitalopram article to an old, non-NPOV version continually. This is what originally brought him to my attention - I don't edit baseball-related articles, but some digging led me to understand that he has been a thorn in the side of baseball wiki editors for quite some time. At any rate, this can be used as an additional check for the (almost certain) future sockpuppets. Cheers, Skinwalker 01:56, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I have sent an e-mail to the SABR organization, notifying them of the situation. My approach with them was to assert that a vandal is using fake ID's that are the names of SABR members. Wahkeenah 23:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

A SABR representative got back to me, and I have directed him to this page to allow him to see what's been going on.

SABR, if/when you're reading - There are two possibilities here.
- One, this is a set of legit SABR editors who are making correct (historically accurate) edits, but doing so in a manner incompatable with Wikipedia guidelines and rules. If so, please work with them to get them to engage us in a discussion on User talk:Ron liebman.
- Two, someone is trying to impersonate a lot of SABR people, from New York City public libraries and related facilities. This seems rather annoying.

Please feel free to contact me on my talk page User talk:Georgewilliamherbert (or email via my user contact info on Wikipeda). I am the Wikipedia volunteer administrator doing most of the blocking of these accounts, though others are finding most of them and flagging them. Georgewilliamherbert 23:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conclusions

I'm not sure there's any point in keeping this report open; Checkuser has confirmed the socks, everything listed here is blocked. --Akhilleus (talk) 05:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Not all the articles are protected, and this guy has been inventing new ID's nearly every day. Baseball Bugs 06:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

This guy is also continually inventing sock puppets to edit the Baseball Reference.com/Bullpen still to this point. --71.197.115.41 20:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)