Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Cocoliras

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[edit] User:Cocoliras

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Cocoliras (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

201.218.79.62 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Report submission by

--the Dúnadan 16:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

201.218.79.62 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) has been POV-pushing engaged in WP:OR and violated WP:3RR in Argentina and North America by reverting the latter seven times.[1]. After being reverted by three different users (the last of which identified his edits as vandalism), and being warned several times to stop his nonconstructive edits in three different articles, he was blocked by administrator Nishkid64 as "anon only, account creation blocked".[2]. Arguably, he logged in to a previously created account: User:Cocoliras, to circumvent the blockage, and revert the article yet again.[3].

At Talk:Argentina he claimed to have "originally thought" the same ideas the anon had.[4]. Ever since the account of Cocoliras was created, both the anon and the account have edited the exact same articles (mainly, but not limited to: Panama City, Copa Airlines, Argentina and North America. Their history of contributions is strikingly identical: compare the anon and Cocoliras, both reverting the exact same things in the aforementioned articles.

Comments

I'm convinced these are the same person, and Cocoliras should be blocked for a long, long time for revert warring. For context: the IP and Cocoliras were arguing that Argentina is a "developed" country, while Dunadan, who reported the case here, was the other side of that revert war, claiming that Argentina is a "developing" country. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 14:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and no, and I find the "context" summary too simplistic and misleading. No, I wasn't "claiming" that Argentina is a "developing" country, I cited three reputable sources (amongst them the IMF,the World Bank and the CIA) who claimed that Argentina is a developing nation, while Cocoliras engaged in WP:OR by trying to compare South Africa with Argentina. Secondly, I wasn't on the other side of the revert war; since Cocoliras engaged in OR, and refused to debate properly, his edits were classified as vandalism by User:Yamanbaiia and were reverted by him, by User:Carl.bunderson, and by myself. I simply filed the 3RR report as well as the sock puppet report. That was three users who, complying with WP:CITE reverted Cocoliras, none of which violated WP:3RR. Please review the history of contributions at Argentina properly, as well as the three warnings he received from several users editing at Argentina and North America. I find it very misleading to imply that there was simply an edit war between his POV and my POV, since that wasn't the case.

--the Dúnadan 23:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Administrators: please review these reports. We present them while they are current. By the time a conclusion is reached they could be weeks old, and the user continues to violate Wikipedia's rules. --the Dúnadan 00:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Conclusions

• Unlikely. Whilst both have similar interest areas, and are both editing disruptively, there is no compelling evidence to suggest sock puppetry. Admittedly, both are having a net negative effect on whichever article they choose to edit, but there are no cross-over editing habits, points of view and indeed log-in times (as suggested in the evidence presented), as far as I can see. Burden of proof lies in your court, and I'm afraid it's not been fulfilled at the present. Anthøny 02:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)