Talk:Surf rock

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[edit] Genre issues

yeah, no mention of jackie and the cedrics or enocky. im pretty sure that those guys were huge in japan.

Hmmmm... surf music currently redirects here, but this article is explicitly not about the instrumental tracks such as that are at least as important as a type of surf music. Something to fix. Andrewa 21:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmmmm... And The Chantays are described in their article as surf rock, despite being a one-hit wonder with the epitomy of surf music instrumental tracks, Pipeline. They did tracks with vocals too, but it's a bit strange to describe a band famous only for an instrumental as belonging to a genre that specifically excludes instrumental music, surely? Some serious musicology needed! Andrewa 21:33, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmmmm and hmmmm... the whole thing is a bit of a mess IMO. Category:surf is a subcategory of Category:Pop music genres, and contains a few surf music articles.

I think the thing to do is to write a high-level article at surf music covering all surf music, including instrumental, surf pop and surf rock, and linking to the other articles. Also create a corresponding category:surf music, perhaps with some subcategories for subgenres, bands, individual songs etc. in time assuming there is a large enough number of articles to justify them. Then depopulate and delete category:surf. Andrewa 07:31, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

And, that's what I've been doing! Except I note that the protocol for deleting a category is not to depopulate it first, owing to the fact that there's no easy way to view the full history of a category i.e. what used to be in it. So I've had to revert some of my edits, but I do see the problem. See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 10. Andrewa 09:14, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Removed text:

In the early 1960s, one of the most popular forms of rock and roll was surf rock, a form of surf music not to be confused with surf instrumental. Surf instrumental is characterized by its heavy use of reverb on the guitars, tremolo picking, catchy melodies, hooks, riffs and rhythms. The spring reverb featured in Fender amplifiers of the day, cranked to its maximum volume, produced a guitar tone shimmering with sustain, vibrato and tremolo, and evoking surf and ocean imagery, or giving the listener the feeling that they are surfing.

I think I know what it's trying to say, but it's neither encyclopedic nor accurate, and seems confused as to whether or not what is being described is instrumental music. Back in the 1960s, surf music and rock music were seen as two completely different genres. Andrewa 11:10, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I've always been given to understand that surf-rock was specifically instrumental rather than the other way around. The only band I can think off that's categorised as 'surf' and often used vocals was The Beach Boys.Stratpod 21:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] List

The "Example Surf Artist" section is unweildy and full of red links. Howsabout jes deleting most of the less obvious examples (keep: Beach Boys, ditch: The Bambi Molesters)? The "List of Surf Rock Musicians" link would continue to do justice to all you "Sh-sh-sh-shark attack!!!" fans. --Oyster 12:32, 17 August 2007

I pared it down. How's that look? —ptk✰fgs 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Super-good. Thanks! --Oyster 6:12, 17 August 2006


[edit] The Pyramids

The Pyramids redirects to Egyptian Pryamids; there isn't an article on the band. I removed the link as I don't know enough about them to create the page. If anyone does, please do. 23funnel23 02:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sub Genres

I plan on removing the entire sub genres section unless references are found just a fair warning. Ridernyc (talk) 02:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)