Talk:Supramolecular chemistry

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Think you could possibly dumb this down a bit. I understand it, but going on scienceforums.net and explaining it to someone is much of an annoyance. --Cyberman 08:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I hope that my revisions helped. I attempted to remove content that simply described self-assembly and not the broader topic of supramolecular chemistry. There is a self-assembly topic for this content. I also tried to remove content that was repeated. --M_stone 19:14, 11 March 2006

[edit] Cycloaddition of trans-1,2-bis(4-pyridyl)ethylene (already in green chemistry)

this edit will have to go, it is also included in green chemistry. Try to limit specific content to just one page V8rik 15:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sorry. I just thought that it was applicable to both articles, but I'm still getting the hang of editing--thanks for the info. Mrestko 23:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
  • First of all, welcome to Wiki! Also thanks for your consideration V8rik 19:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I think that this subject is too general to site specific examples. Instead I suggest linking it to another topic that is more specific to the example, such as green Chemistry perhaps. --M_stone 14:13, 4 May 2006

[edit] Definition of supramolecular chemistry

I wonder if the definition of supramolecular chemistry on this page is not broad enough. The IUPAC definition is rather narrow. A better definition might be found to include coordination complexes that still retain subunit function, but are definitely connected by covalent bonds. Polynuclear ruthenium and osmium complexes bridged by polyimine ligands require rather harsh conditions (refluxing DMF) to be broken, often resulting in decomposition, not reversible reaction behavior. There are other examples in the literature. For examples see: Balzani, V. et al. Chem. Rev. 1996, 96, 759. or Sauvage, J.-P. et al. Chem. Rev. 1994, 94, 993.

I think the definition is reasonably broad and well-supported. The non-covalent bonding requirement is crucial to avoid encompassing all areas of chemistry. M stone 22:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New material and some organization.

I have added a lot of material in an attempt to cover more of the subject, since the article seemed to be rather focused on the synthetic chemical side of things. Other notable additions are a thermodynamics section (which is important since supramolecular thermodynamics has many differences to that of covalent chemistry), and a section listing important building blocks. I have tried to make this a better "jumping off" point for people looking for information.

It could still do with something about analytical techniques of particular interest to supramolecular chemistry (e.g. soft ionization MS methods, VT-NMR, UV-vis spectroscopy to measure CT complexes). Also, something about kinetics would be good, and although the pictures currently in are beautiful, it would be nice to have some that cover other aspects of the subject. I'm sure there are also a lot of details to add and copyedit to be done on my additions. Not to mention references to add (unfortunately I don't have easy access to a library and my old stuff is all boxed up so that's a bit of a PITA for me).

Any specific comments about my edit can be put here. I will check back. I think this is an extremely important article to have at a very high level, and I hope I've gone some of the way to make it so! • TheBendster (talk) 3 October 2007, 14:29 (UTC)