Talk:Superman in popular culture

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[edit] Video Game references

Shouldn't there be a "video game references" section too? Because I think it should be noted that there was a reference to Superman in the game "Super DragonBall Z". Dark Rain

[edit] Article title

With the focus of this article mostly being on movies, television, etc., should the name be changed to Superman in popular media? This would bring it in line with Batman in popular media. Rhindle The Red 19:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Now there have been concerns (and a tonne of deletions) of "in popular culture" entries here. The Batman one mentioned above has been moved to Batman franchise media which gives it a much tighter focus and means it is less likely to act as a "trivia trap" (which is what the bulk of the reference section is). So move to "Superman franchise media" and focus the entry. There is a proposed split and that would further help with this. Thoughts? (Emperor 20:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Seinfeld

There was a superman in every seinfeld episode. 70.111.251.203 03:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DC Talk

The DC Talk 'superman' lyric doesn't refer to Supes--it referrs to Neitzche(sp)'s Ubermensch (roughly translated as 'superman').

[edit] "I Love Lucy" Appearance

The article says it featured "George Reeves as Superman". This isn't exactly right. George Reeves played himself, the actor. In the episode he appeared in his Superman costume because he was playing George Reeves is a superman costume (Lucy and Ricky knew a lot of hollywood types). No powers or hokus pokus happened. Just wanted to post this here before changing the article itself.--Daniel 14:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I just watched the episode ("Lucy and Superman") again and it's quite clear that he is Superman and not George Reeves. They never refer to him as anything other than "Superman" and he *does* display super powers, albeit only tossing a heavy piano aside.Rhindle The Red 02:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sections

I'm thinking about restructuring the 'portrayal" sections again. I think maybe "Live Action", "Animation", "Audio", "Video Games", & "Live appearances". Then, subsections like "Film", "Television" (and maybe "Straight to Video") under both "Live Action" and "Animation". I also think the two other significant sections (parodies and homages) are too confusing and probably need some structure as well.Rhindle The Red 15:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More pictures

I'm thinking of adding more pictures of various Superman portrayals, including a few in the "Parodies" section. What does everyone think? Are there too many right now, just the right number or would more be beneficial?Rhindle The Red 12:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Curse" section

I'm trying to guage interest in this "Curse" section and keep the discussion open. Does this stuff fit in here? The argument has been made that newspaper articles are a part of popular culture, but I'm not so sure. Does anyone have any ideas?Rhindle The Red 12:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

  • The wikipedia article on popular culture states that newspapers are part of the popular culture. The section on Superman clearly isn't part of the character itself, so can't go in the Superman article, but clearly warrants referring to it somewhere if it is mentioned in the media on both sides of the Atlantic, and by the director of the latest film. "curse of superman" produces over 18,000 Google hits, and has had a Channel4 documentary filmed about it (shown on Saturday, July 29 2006). International media attention and a national broadcast documentary? Average Earthman 17:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so work that into the article. Right now, there's precious little about how the curse has manifested in popular culture. The links are not enough. Rhindle The Red 17:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving a Section

Tag says it's been suggested that we move the parody section---

I disagree.

I think the parodies are what makes it "Superman in Popular Culture"

What we should move is the "Portrayals" section. The Portrayals and Homages together make this article quite long and perhaps a but clumsy. But the Homages are, in essence, Pop culture, whereas the Portrayals could neatly fit into a "Superman in Media" headline. QotC 02:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Welling image

Would it be possible to replace the current image of Tom Welling with a different promotional shot of him in his blue t-shirt and red jacket? I personally feel that would give that particular image selection a more Superman-esque vibe. I for one don't have such an image, but if anyone could track one down, that would be... super. --156.34.65.69 20:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure Tom Welling should be showed as depicting "Superman" per se. He has protrayed Clark Kent for 7 seasons now, but he's yet to be "Superman." Anyone else have thoughts on this? Minion56 (talk) 02:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Superman and Clark Kent are the same character, thus, Welling belongs here. The intro to the section covers this. "Among the actors who have played Superman (and/or his alter ego, Clark Kent)..." Rhindle The Red (talk) 15:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Musical depictions of Superman

Now that the size and scope of this article has been vastly reduced to a more manageable level, should it be brough back into this article or does it still stand on its own? Rhindle The Red 12:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge There seems to be enough room here and the other looks so lonesome by itself. I think it fits nicely. -- Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 20:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge It totally belongs here. -Rocket000 08:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge - It's not a long section and really belongs here. --Lendorien 14:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I have done the merge based on consensus. --Lendorien 14:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other uses section

This area is somewhat bloated with a lot of incidental items of little consequence. Unless someone objects, I will be going through these and removing any that lack substance. Rhindle The Red 03:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I've done some cutting down. I will probably do more later (although this time primarily in the name of brevity, not eliminating items). Rhindle The Red 19:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 Doors Down

Isn't the song Kryptonite from 2000 and not 2002? JamesEG (talk) 03:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)