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This article was nominated for deletion on 19 August 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus, defaulting to keep but rewrite and improve.

Contents 1 Explain me 2 More details 3 Samson Reference 4 Problems with Superhuman strength 5 Worried about this article 6 Mythology 7 Adrenaline

[edit] Explain me

If the super power is strength, i dont understand why slam tazmanian(from Loonatics Unleashed) and sanson(from the biblia) isnt are named here. please explain me.greetings

--Lizzie Rivera 23:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Because we can't name everyone that is super strong. Joeking16 (talk) 10:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More details

Part of superhuman strength that has been touched on in this article, is the latent invulnerability. In other words, all characters, even in mythology, have some degree of invulnerability, otherwise they would be crushed by their own strength. Imagine if hulk punched a wall and broke his hand with the wall. The two powers are usually combined to some degree, at lesat to the point that the character can actually use their strength without hurting themselves. Even spider-man has some invulnerability to the point that he doesn't get bruises, and breaks his bone when he lifts a car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acecool79 (talk • contribs)

All that goes very briefly and summarised in the "feats" section as a noted observation. Do not over expand, which would reach into original research territory.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 19:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean, without a degree of body toughening someone with super strength when they tense their muscles they could crush their own bones. Especially people like the Hulk and Spiderman, Spiderman is a class 30 (30 tonnes he can lift in recent record) and the Hulk has unlimited strength so they will need it.

[edit] Samson Reference

I removed the reference to Samson under the section devoted to mythological characters. Samson has a prominent place in the Christian faith, so there are numerous people who believe him to have really existed. I added Thor to the list since he and Hercules are characters that are accepted to have been myths, due in part to them being associated with dead religions. Odin's Beard 23:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Mythology doesn't necessarily mean that something is untrue; it's more an indicator of cultural signifigance. For instance, see the Wikipedia article on Christian mythology.

Noclevername 05:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Besides, Thor and Hercules are probably still worshipped by some people. That being the case, why are they under the "In fiction" section? It seems terribly biased, and offensive to people of religious beliefs (besides, there may be some historical basis for people like Samson). I'm putting it in its own section. RobbieG 15:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with Superhuman strength

Would it be appropriate to note in this article some problems with superhuman strength, especially at the higher levels? For example, I can recall some discussions on whether Superman could really lift, say, a supertanker, without causing it to collapse around his hands. This in turn was explained away with a sort of telekinetic field that allowed his strength as I recall. FrozenPurpleCube 04:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. The article needs expansion beyond "list of notable examples of characters who possess superhuman strengh".~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 14:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that it is something that should be considered, but i think that the biggest problem would be balance. Numerous times when i picked someone or something up and ended up dropping it because i couldn't balance it properly and then lifted a far heavier object with ease because i could balance it. Also i think someone should make a section where we can tell people our theories of acheiving supehuman strenght amongst other attributes:)

[edit] Worried about this article

I have this terrible fear it's going to degenerate with everyone who happens across it adding everyone they can think of with superhuman strength. The category already exists. Maybe someone should think of creating List of fictional characters who possess superhuman strength.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 10:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd say remove the Superman parodies. That alone should cut it down. I'm taking out a few minor characters.

Noclevername 05:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mythology

Since the concept originated in mythology, isn't that far more relevant than fiction? RobbieG 15:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

In a word, no. It's a concept primarily belonging to contemporary fiction. If a vote has to be taken and mythology has to be kept, it would not belong separately from the fiction lists. What would be good, would be a cited PROSE section about uses of superhuman strength in mythology. That would be excellent.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 16:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I might do that later or maybe someone else will; right now I'm a little busy, so that may have to wait. Could you please clarify, though - are you calling religion fictional? I think a number of people could get very offended by that implication. RobbieG 18:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying they're definitely anything, but I would say the way they're presented is very different - and much older than - contemporary fiction, and therefore only belong with context affixing their relevance to the topic. For example, it would start "the concept of strength beyond human limits can be found in early beliefs of..." and going on to describe "demi-God Hercules bla bla bla" and "Biblical figure Samson used his strength to... and lost it when...". We should use {{bibleref}} too, though.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 18:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adrenaline

When outside of a certain Bill Bixby show did adrenalized strength become classed as "superhuman"? If humans can do it, it's not super, it's human strength. --Noclevername (talk) 01:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. If a human can do it, it should be deemed human strength. --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 08:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)