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[edit] Notes
This page has a long way to go. Superflat is not an easy topic, because the art has many themes, but at the same time very specific criteria. Generally these themes revolve around these topics:
Consumerism, sexuality, post-apocolyptic with an eye towards social criticism. The thing is not all of it is exactly critical, some plays around with the idea while others harshly denounce it.
Again this is still too general and much work needs to be done on this article. Murakami has a manifesto that he wrote in his hard to find original bilingual superflat book, that's a good place to start for those who are interested in researching more on this topic. Unfortinetly this source has many allusions to Animators and artists that americans may be unfamiliar with, for the Animators I'd recommend going to [http:\\www.pelleas.net anipages daily] which has a comprehensive listing of influential animators under the subsection Karisuma Animators.
I'll eventually get around to expanding this article, but its going to require a lot of time to make comprehensive.
--Neilworms 07:03, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I understand and, to some extent, share your enthusiasm for the wider implications of Murakami's ideas, but the "Superflat" entry has no real need to be comprehensive beyond the boundaries of its significance in the art world. the type of thoroughness you are looking for might be better suited to the pages of individual artists since, despite some commonalities among Murakami, Nara, Marimoto and others, each has their own peculiarities and individuated paths. Though I don't agree, many critics argue that "Superflat" is merely a Japanese localization of pop art. I think the entry for Dogme 95, another art movement with a number of artist-proponents based upon a single artist's manifesto, might serve as a model here. Bustter 18:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
The text contains a link to "cute formalism" -- a non-existent article. Removing it. Bustter 21:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I read the book edited by Murakami "Little Boy: The Art's of Japan's Exploding Subculture" (which has its articles in both Japanese and English). It seemed that Murakami was making the case that the popular culture of otaku animation, comic books, etc...and "high" (my quotes) art have merged and become one and the same (in Japan). Also, this is not a "Japanese version" of pop art, but a wholey original art "movement" indigenous to Japan. Not trying to cut out anything anyone said above..., i am also theorizing, (not having read Murakami's manifesto, unless it was in "Little Boy") that this label "Superflat" means a levelling of difference or "prestige" between what is "high" art (what some people, for better or worse, label being stuck-up) and non-"high" art. Art for the people, not stuck in a museum! hehehe. VeriGGlater 20:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Citation problems, possible original research and a bit of weasel words
Agreed: superflat is a difficult topic. Nonetheless, this article should have proper citations, no original research and must be devoid of weasel words. As of now, none of these issues are being met satisfactorily. The weasel phrases are particularly jarring. For example, "frequently regarded" by who or what group of people? "Arguably"? "Arguably," says who? ...says a credible source? Also, the language needs to be authoritative. For example, a sentence shouldn't say "so-and-so is regarded as a superflat artist." That gets back into weasel territory. ("Regarded" by who?) Rather, a better version of that sentence would be: "so-and-so is a superflat artist." That sentence can then be followed by a citation. It's simple and to the point. Aside from the obvious fleshing out that's required here, there is much editing needed to what's already written. Thankfully, though, we needn't start from scratch. Cheers, ask123 04:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
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