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[edit] Dash feature

Template:SpoilerIn the Reception section, the article states that there is no Dash button. A dashing feature actually can be unlocked, by completing the Flipside Pit of 100 Trials and receiving a Pixl named Dashell. (Note: This Pixl is optional and not necessary for any part of the game.) Dashell, when used, enables Mario to run at about twice his normal speed. Eric55673Template:Endspoiler

It seems like that is something that reviewers were criticizing, whether the Pixl existed or not; perhaps they didn't play the game long enough to get Dashell. --Brandon Dilbeck 23:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archived

Everything before Dash feature has been archived. --myselfalso 01:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character list

Since there was already a list of characters in SPM, I commented out the large block of character details as this is unnecessarily duplicating information. I think some of those details can be worked into the List page which is why I didn't just delete the text. --Masem 20:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dialogue criticisms

Frequent criticisms include [...] the very large amount of dialogue between characters, especially compared to any other platforming game.

It's an RPG, what would you expect... 194.120.158.162 23:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it's not an RPG. It's a platformer with SOME minor RPG elements (previous Paper Mario games were regular RPGs). TJ Spyke 23:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
You're splitting hairs. --Thaddius 15:09, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I know this is old but I just got here, why shouldn't these criticisms be mentioned? I mean, if it really is frequent and from renowned gaming critics, it should be mentioned. You can even say "though large amounts of dialogue is common in RPGs" or whatever if it makes you feel better, but you can't deny the complaint was made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internet Mage (talk • contribs) 02:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door was also criticized for its lengthy dialogues, and it was an RPG. The dialogues went on for perhaps the same amount of time that SPM's did. So lengthy cut-scenes that cannot be skipped are criticized in general. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 03:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Super Paper Mario Walkthrough - IGN FAQs

Just so eveybody knows, I put a link to http://faqs.ign.com/articles/784/784008p1.html, A webpage that tells you what you need to do when you really need to get to the next level of Super Paper Mario.


Corbin Davenport 00:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character Article

Why was the whole Super Paper Mario characters article deleted? Both the PM: Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario character pages were scrapped, but what for? That was a lot of useful information? Unknown Dragon 02:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:USEFUL and WP:INTERESTING --Lucid 02:59, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

So why WAS the character pages deleted? 75.185.101.79 14:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

It looks as though ALL the Paper Mario character sections have been deleted...What's going on here? There's no reason for that. MsDevin92 19:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Can we redirect "Count Bleck" and "Super Paper Mario characters" to "List of Paper Mario series characters"? 75.185.101.79 02:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler Warning?

Shouldn't there be some kind of spoiler warning? zanzer7 11:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia policies, spoiler warnings should not be used. -- ReyBrujo 17:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of a Wikipedia policy on that. I think that {{spoiler}} should be used. --Leon Byford 18:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fatal PAL Glitch

I added the other way of getting round the glitch - it does work, as that is how I got round it.--03crichardson 16:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I object to the glitch section being removed. It is a major fault with a large quantity (if not all) PAL disks. It is not a trivial "he can walk on air for a little while" glitch, it freezes the whole wii - only fixed by pulling the power out. For any PAL players this is a serious issue. --03crichardson 17:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I also object to the glitch section being removed. If it's serious enough for NOE to put out a replacement disk, then it's serious enough to be mentioned in a wiki article about the game. Dunnymeister 08:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree Muzzamo 08:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps before restoring the section, sources should be found, and it should be rewritten? Just a thought. Geoff B 09:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, yeah, but if a source can't be found then does that meen that PAL Gamers should be left SOL? Concidering the game had a rather long translation period, it's rather silly to not mention it.Conan-san 17:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
The section I removed said nothing about a replacement disc, which would be the most important part of the section for this article. All it contained was a description of the glitch and how to avoid it, which is not interesting at all for the non-gamer reader. Pagrashtak 15:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
The things I could remove from say, the Heros page because they're not intresting at all to someone who doesn't watch Heros and yet would hide important infomation about Heros from those who want to know. I say to hell with common man. Conan-san 17:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
That sentiment will not produce a very useful encyclopedia. If you wish to improve other articles by removing unencyclopedic material, please feel free. Pagrashtak 19:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
So hiding facts, particulary ones that users of the article will concider useful = encyclopdic? Does hiding things that are of note "useful"? I'd rather a "Useless" encyclopida that told me things rather than a "useful" encyclopedia that short changed things. I'm sorry, I'm reversing the removal of the PAL Glitch section.Conan-san 09:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
It will only get removed again for the same reasons. Why not try and find a source? Geoff B 09:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I was under the impresion it got removed even with a source Conan-san 09:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Nope, last time it was removed it was unsourced, and the edit summary stated so. Geoff B 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, the only sources I have are from forums, and could have been written by any one of us. Although, I was playing the game, it froze for ME, and I got around it. Hows that for proof? If this sint useful information, then what is? --03crichardson 17:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Oriognal Research, which Wikipedia looks down on with it's bushy look down opon eyebrows.Conan-san 10:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Here is the official statement from Nintendo regarding the bug http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=5PEzUvTf6HbPNJBeSVY69gEW_UolQbT8 145.253.3.223 —Preceding comment was added at 11:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

As a PAL gamer who uses wikipedia for info I strongly support this being here. In fact, I only learned about the glitch because I read about it here (however it was unfortunately too late as I had returned the game first). -161.73.45.173 (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character List?

Why is there no section on characters, or even a list? Zman42 16:33 15 December 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 21:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

There is an article on characters in the entire Paper Mario series: List of Paper Mario series characters (although it's currently protected due to an edit war on the page). TJ Spyke 03:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, OKZman42 (talk) 15:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Also, lists are generally discouraged for a particular game article if that game is a part of a series. --Son (talk) 00:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Plot additions

Template:Spoiler I think something about Dimentio should be added to the Plot section, and maybe also something about Blumiere and Timpani as well, if someone could do that. Because the game's not quite like some of the other Mario games, and has what appears to be the main antagonist to actually be the good guy in the end...or something like that. 203.87.8.127 (talk) 02:39, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to rewrite the plot section to include those details but doesn't become long and excessive, like a previous attempt as this. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 03:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
It's done. I think an appropriate screenshot should be added, given that there is one. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 03:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reception

A Huge Gap is in the Reception section. More Info is needed abut what reviewers think about the game.--Chykka207 (talk) 15:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I added a review from Plugged in (I hope it helps....). - Mkalv —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.46.58 (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)