Talk:Super Mario Bros. Special

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[edit] Mario Bros. Special?

I read at themushroomkingdom.net that there was a game released called Mario Bros. Special (I'm assuming it was a port of Mario Bros.) Just throwing this out there, as I see no eidence of it on Wikipedia Shadow2 04:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Discussion

This game should not be merged with Super Mario 3 Special. They are two totally unrelated games that have nothing to do with each other. Both merit seperate articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Berenlazarus (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Speed difference

"The actual speed of the game appears faster, with powerups moving quickly, the timer draining faster, and the jump controls taking a little adjustment."

Does the game seem to play faster just on an emulator, or on the actual computer? It seems kind of odd that even the timer would count down faster. 24.159.255.29 04:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
The TIME drains faster, but the speed is the same, UNLESS you set it to 8MHz on the emulated version (which i have). The standard speed is 4MHzSuperWiki5 17:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Remade or ported

"It is the only game in the series bearing the "Bros." title (besides the recently released New Super Mario Bros.) that has not yet been remade or ported in any form."

Does this mean New Super Mario Bros. has been remade or ported? That doesn't seem to be the case. 24.159.255.29 04:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Illegal Content

The links on the bottom contained everything needed to download the game [1][2]. This seems to be illegal, so I'm removing the link. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frankyboy5 (talk • contribs) .

This now means there are no more links. Frankyboy5 04:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I re-added the link -- it falls under the category of abandonware and besides, it's not illegal for us to link to a page with semi-legal stuff. In this case, it's the first and most notable source of information on the game. Andre (talk) 22:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
While the software itself may be abandonware, the characters are still owned by Nintendo. In this case, copyright infringement is still a problem because the characters and environments (and probably the graphics, which are more or less directly from Super Mario Bros.) are still actively owned and used by a company (Nintendo). I haven't removed the link, I'm just suggesting that perhaps the justification for keeping it is flawed. Jeff Silvers 02:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Either way, it's not like we're linking to file-sharing or some active form of copyright infringement. We're linking to a pretty laid-back infringement that I think is OK -- and regardless, it seems to be a page necessary for information. Andre (talk) 03:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The name of this article should be Mario Bros. Special

As you can see from this screenshot and from photographs of the box art, this game dropped the Super prefix. I'm going to move it. --Tristam 02:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

There was both a "Mario Bros. Special" & a "Super Mario Bros. Special" (the screenshots on that page should have made it clear). Besides that, themushroomkingdom.net has them both listed [3] (this was also mentioned by someone at the top of this talk page). SNS 02:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Shit, my fault. So is there no mention of the Mario Bros. Special released in '84? --Tristam 02:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Apparently not. Anybody care to create an article for it? I haven't played it myself, but I hear it's actually quite distinct from all other versions in terms of gameplay (I could be wrong, of course). Jeff Silvers 11:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I see nothing wrong with adding information about the game to this article. Mario Bros. Special already redirects here anyways. --Tristam 00:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, it shouldn't, then. They're two different games. Andre (talk) 18:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I created Mario Bros. Special (as well as Punch Ball Mario Bros.). Andre (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The True Story of Super Mario Bros. 2?

I've read a source of interesting background info of how Super Mario Bros. Special came to be, but I seem to have lost the website. I'm pretty sure I wasn't dreaming it or anything. Regardless, I think I should share this possible origin with Wikipedia.

A sequel to Super Mario Bros. was in development not long after the Japanese release of the original. Hudson Soft saw the success of this game, and offered Nintendo to give them the license to produce the sequel for their computer to help promote their hardware. Nintendo agreed since Hudson Soft made two Mario Bros. games for their computer, and it wasn't likely that they would get their new formula wrong. Nintendo handed all the plans for the sequel over to Hudson Soft.

Hudson Soft didn't take long to port over what Nintendo started, and used all the World maps that were designed by Nintendo. The game was given the title "Super Mario Bros. Special". However, Nintendo ended up disowning their original sequel. Shigeru Miyamoto himself played a portion of the game and was highly disappointed in how Hudson's hardware handled their sequel. In a sudden move, he announced that the version of the sequel released for the Famicom would be overhauled so it would not be associated with Hudson. Also, to assure that technological limitations (whether they were extreme or not) would never plague the game, the project was moved over to the Famicom Disk System. This delayed the sequel a little while longer.

This sequel was done entirely in-house. It was known as "Super Mario Bros. 2", later to be known outside Japan as "Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels". The real Super Mario Bros. 2, however, was never released on a Nintendo console, and is understood to be exclusive to Hudson. Thus, Nintendo never decided to be more careful with their serious projects. Diesir 23:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

This game is technically "Super Mario Bros. 2". However, it was so obscure, an new game was released in Japan called Super Mario Bros. 2, and it was released on consoles. SuperWiki5 18:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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Just noting for anybody reading this that a fair use rationale has been provided for the image by another user. Jeff Silvers 09:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)