Talk:Super 14

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[edit] older comments

When should we move the article to Super 14? --Dale Arnett 19:40, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I'd say "any time". The last Super 12 is all finished up, anything that happens now is the leadup to the first season of the Super 14. —Stormie 03:53, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jerseys

Most of the jerseys in the infoboxes are screwed up. Could someone please try and fix them. Most teams are currently just blank/black.

[edit] Super 10

Does anyone know anything about the Super 10 competition- I believe the Reds won it in 1995. Ronan.evans 09:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

And why don't commentators incorporate Super 10 into the term "Super Rugby?" Ronan.evans 02:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

See Super 10 (Southern Hemisphere competition) for the Super 10. I guess the reason it doesn't get combined with Super 12/14 in discussions is due to the difference in organization - Super 10 was the end of the amateur era of rugby, the Super 12 was the start of the professional era. Also the Super 12/14 are organized by SANZAR who as far as I know were founded to organize the Super 12 and Tri Nations Series, and didn't exist in the Super 10 days. —Stormie 22:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super 12 Logo

Can anyone find a Super 12 Logo that can be used here? 202.67.90.66 21:53, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

This google images search reveals a few different versions of the Super 12 logo, most with a different sponsors' name blazoned across it. Perhaps one of those could be yoinked for fair use? —Stormie 22:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
If we did that I think we should have one from each country that participated in the Super 12. Otherwise some users would be unfamiliar with the logo. 58.178.49.102 07:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title

I know that Super 12 redirects to this article, but don't you think a more appropriate title would be "Super Rugby" with both Super 14 and Super 12 redirecting to it? Thus the term would be inclusive of the competition as a whole, whose history spans back to 1996 and does not automatically "stop" when the name changed... -- PageantUpdater 09:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I think because the competition is more commonly known as Super 14 then it shouldn't change to Super Rugby. Super Rugby does redirect to Super 14 so I think it's ok. Guinness Premiership is the title of the wiki-article on the Premier Rugby Union competition in England even though it's been known by several other names. Anyway I think the title Super 14 is best. - Shudda talk 10:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Championship templates

I'm not a huge fan of the Super 12 champions template, and the Super 14. I don't really see the purpose of them, and as posted in the discussion above, the Super 12 does not stop once the name changed (so why two templates?). I think this notion needs to be applied to a number of other Super rugby articles, where it seems the two competitions are actually different, but they really, are not different. Cvene64 04:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

It should be pointed out that when the Crusaders won this year, Ian Jones said the "inargural Super 14 champions" at the trophy presentation.--HamedogTalk|@ 12:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Catchment?

Should we include the catchments of each Super team in the table? Ie. Cheetahs (Free State etc.)........?Narrasawa 14:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Past results

Should we create boxes with the colours of the teams to replace the flags, like [:Image:University_colours.png]? It could make it easier to identify, especially since the NZ and Aus flags like very similar in its current form...thoughts? Cvene64 15:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking about this a few weeks ago, however my idea was a bit different. We could create cheap knocks offs of the logos, like for the Crusaders we could have a sword on a red/black background or something. The problem with colours is that some teams have similar colours, like the Highlanders and the Force or the Bulls and the Waratahs for example.--HamedogTalk|@ 01:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree that some of the colours are pretty similar, but I think if we made up logos, some people may actually believe that they are the official ones, and that could be a bit of a problem..Cvene64 09:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Some of the colours are the same - the Force and the Highlanders both have Blue and Yellow! Perhaps we could have something like Image:User browser firefox.png, which is a free version of Image:Firefox-logo.png. Just a thought.--HamedogTalk|@ 14:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
The Brumbies also have Blue and Yellow (albeit a darker blue). ronan.evans 07:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

A peer review has been started. See the WikiProject Rugby union banner at the top. Please add any comments on the article. - Shudda talk 02:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Box at the bottom of team pages

Some team pages seem to have as many as three boxes at the foot of their page. It seems very cluttered and annoying, especially when you just want to navigate through all the 14 teams, and you have to tick [show] to reveal the thing. We should have a box like most other sports leagues. Ozkid20 02:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crusaders

Hi, I've requested a peer review for Crusaders. Could everyone please take a look and help out? I'm trying to get the article up to Featured Article standard, and would like any feedback I can get. You can add any comments here. Thanks a lot! - Shudda talk 03:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crusaders nominated for Featured Article

I have nominated Crusaders (rugby) for Featured Article status. Please leave a comments on the article on the comments page here. Any assistance replying to peoples comments, or fixing problems would be greatly appreciated. It would be nice to get another FA for the project. - Shudda talk 04:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Super 12 section

Edited Super 12 section slightly - are scores for matches really needed? Xt828 06:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History: Future of the Super 14

In addition to what is already on the page, there is also are some new articles that relate to this from super14.com: 'Gold Coast wants a Super 14 team' - from Feb 2nd 2008, 'O'Neil plans to revitalise the Super 14'- from 30th Jan 2008 and 'Brumbies back extended Super 14'- from 27th Jan 2008, as well as rugbyheaven.com.au: 'West is best for expansion: resurrected Rams to be Sydney's second Super side'- from Feb 1st 2008 and 'Super idea, bad timing - Parra'- from Feb 2nd 2008.

Perhaps the author of 'Future of the Super 14' would like to view these articles and add to the paragraph- otherwise I will make additions myself- and let the editing process take care of the rest. --SLambert9901 (talk) 07:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crowds

We need to get some reliable crowd figures in the article. All i can ever find is contradictory/incomplete numbers released by each union. Is there a central source? Soundabuser (talk) 00:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)