User talk:Sumbuddi

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[edit] Welcome!

Some cookies to welcome you! :D
Some cookies to welcome you! :D

Welcome to Wikipedia, Sumbuddi! I am SatuSuro and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! SatuSuro 11:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Indonesian rupiah

There are major problems with the article - are you prepared to have a talk about it? SatuSuro 02:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, why wouldn't I be? If you want to say something, say it. Sumbuddi (talk) 10:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well in many cases articles are being written by Indonesians with limited english :) Well the issue is where is all the info coming from - also are you up with WP:RS  ?

I realise I might have asked you this before but need to check as the article is getting too long and complicated- and will need to be broken up at some point SatuSuro 10:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

My English is pretty solid, I hope ;-). Regarding sourcing, well most of it is sourced from www.bi.go.id, specifically the dates of issue and withdrawal. The mintage figures on coins (which in the section 'Sen coinage 1951-1961') is derived from the Krause Standard Catalog of World Coins: 1801-1991; incidentally the section on Sen coinage would probably benefit from being turned into a table. Dates on the issue and withdrawal of banknotes can be found in Bank Indonesia's cyber-museum, which has been down for a few days now, but is at http://www.bi.go.id/msmbiweben/koleksi_uang.asp. The other content is generally taken from the www.bi.go.id site, and most of the pages are linked from the article. Except the section on banknotes in the revolutionary period comes from the 'Political Dimensions of the currency question' which is a long PDF linked in the footnotes. Could you perhaps comment a specific section regarding its sourcing?
Regarding structure I just moved the 'current legal tender' to the top, as I guess it is probably more important. Sumbuddi (talk) 10:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey you have a sense of humour - phew that helps - my apologies if my short term memory seizes up from too much time on wikipedia :| I think you have let me know before now - - you might have a good suggestion as to how we might be able to break it up at all? it is really getting too long... SatuSuro 10:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, a lot of the weight is about banknote issues. The problem is trying to separate it out from the history stuff while still retaining a coherent narrative. E.g. if you take a look at the section "1959-1965: currency devaluation and spiralling inflation", it is initially about the 90% devaluation of currency, but most of the rest of the section is technical data about banknote issues. I think you could separate it but you would also have to duplicate. But perhaps the best solution is just more banknote tables: it would not shorten the file length in bytes perhaps, but the article text could stick to major historical facts; e.g., 'The period December 1960 - January 1961 saw the end of the remaining Bank Indonesia notes of the '1952' series as legal tender.' doesn't really add any insight to ones understanding of the rupiah (because there's no source available saying that it was anything other than generally housekeeping to withdraw these notes_, and also in a table, the actual individual dates of withdrawal of each note can be entered.
I don't currently have the capability to upload images. I was using commonist to do so, which seems to expedite things; I currently don't have the right JRE installed. But basically there are about a hundred images to upload in order to finish things off. I'm not sure it's necessarily a good idea to restructure until this is done, because the shape of the page is rather under construction. Sumbuddi (talk) 11:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
heheh commonist issues - both commonist and oggle earth were vexatious issues for me for almost 6 months :( - will hold off till you get to some limit - cheers and thanks for the chat - keep well and we will have to negotiate down the line how to get parts as sub arts or somthin like that :\ cheers SatuSuro 12:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)