Talk:Summertime (song)

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[edit] Jeesus

This article needs to be wiped clean and started fresh. It is beyond repair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.254.115 (talk) 08:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] List of artists who have covered the song Summertime

...moved to User:Zanimum/List of artists who have covered Gershwin songs. —Viriditas | Talk 13:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spell error or not?

"Summertime" vies with the Beatles' "Yesterday" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaapkroe (talk • contribs).

Huh? Powers T 21:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just came over after hearing it on the radio...

...and what a bloody mess of an article. I've had a go but it still needs work.Totnesmartin 22:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] with all due respect

The invitation to expand the list of artists performing the song in question takes us from the sublime to the ridiculous. I see that an attempt has been made to do something about it User:Zanimum/List of artists who have covered Gershwin songs, but the invitation just encourages people to add to the list on the article page. Would it be politically incorrect to establish some kind of screening process whereby only those performers who have a an article on Wikipedia are included on the list, and all others are included on another, separate list? Obviously it might exclude a minority of outstanding performers who do not yet have such a page, but it would also exclude a far greater number of relatively insignificant figures, who like to sing this wonderful song in the shower. Look fwd to feedback on this. --Technopat 12:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] with all due respect 2

I would even go farther and state that is useless to add a list of artists to this article. As the group The Summertime Connection (of which I'm a member) maintains a full database which is daily updated but by definition not complete, why should that be copied here. We're talking about at least 13,000 artists and if somebody wants to have an impression how far humanity can go in murdering a song: a listen at Singshot is enough. Should all those people that even do not dare use their own name be mentioned on Wikepedia?--User:Edclusa 12:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I'm removing the list of people who have recorded it. —Viriditas | Talk 11:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems that the list with languages and the one with instruments has been removed too, I think that's a pity.--User:Edclusa 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The external links should serve that purpose. —Viriditas | Talk 13:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

No way, that's quite different, so I've added those once again--User:Edclusa 01.37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

In keeping with the general trend of this discussion, have deleted the following:
Floater (band) from Portland, Oregon performs the song during their live shows in a medley with their song "Medicine Woman" from their 1998 concept album Angels in the Flesh and Devils in the Bone. --Technopat 23:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] a mess with an agenda

This article is a complete mess. It seems it's been hijacked by a group of devotees and appears to be more about describing their work than actually talking about the song itself. The song has been covered by the likes of Billie Holiday and Nina Simone. As such nobody cares about "The Mimisikous Band" (????) or "Topi Sorsakoski" or "Henda" (p.s. 'Yugoslavian' is not a language!). It is sufficient to mention "The Summertime Connection" only once, in the external links. The section about "Montana Skies" is also unnecessarily detailed (IMO, unnecessary completely), and poorly worded.

[edit] Why I have reverted the latest "update"

First of all, if the update was made in good faith, please accept my apologies and revert my revert. But bear in mind at least some of the following points:

a) The Summertime Connection web site (external link) accessed today (see date and time by my signature) states the following:

At 27 July 2007 at 13.29 GMT we have 8,283 full recordings and about 1,100 samples and incomplete recordings of the 13,536 recordings of at least 19,800 performances.

b) If the update was taken from a "legitimate" source, it should be referenced accordingly. And said source should be easily accessible to any editor wishing to confirm content (i.e. a subscriber service might not be acceptable).

c) According to the update, there have been more public performances in the last (less than) month than the average annual number of performances since the song was written in 1935. Of course, while this is statistically possible ...

d) And last, but not least, the figures to which I have reverted may not be any more accurate than those which have been reverted.

--Technopat (talk) 14:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] this article sucks

Is it totally necessary to list all these different foreign language and foreign instrument versions? It's a common jazz standard, it probably gets played a thousand times a night around the world in different languages with different instruments. More specific complaints: "we mention at random one artist in the language" - we who? We, the wikipedia community at large? I've never seen the word "we" in an encyclopedia before. "About 25 electric cello's exist in this world" - wtf? Does this mean 25 recordings of Summertime by electric cellos or what? Why is this even worth mentioning? If someone out there just has to keep all this stuff on this article, can it at least be rewritten in a more encyclopedic style?

--Justyn7 (talk) 23:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] encycolpedic?

After the last edit, this article does not add anything anymore to what any reader knows about the song. It's a pity but I shall not revert to any older edition, if this is what Wikepedia is about (Wikipedia is an encyclopedia incorporating elements of general encyclopedias, specialized encyclopedias, and almanacs). Let me give one example: there's only one database in this world that contains data about that many performances of the song of which each and everyone has been verified. If that's not a source, then what is?Edclusa (talk) 09:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)