Talk:Sujebi
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[edit] The picture
The picture in the infobox is the only available one I could find from internet so far, but looks not so great and athentic. Is there anyone willing to replace it with a better picture? --Appletrees 13:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wheat flakes
What are wheat flakes? Is it like the breakfast cereal corn flakes? Badagnani 19:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- I referred to it from a Korean-English dictionary, but the translation turn out to be Konglish. Anyway, wheat flakes are not cereal, is like dumpling without a filling made from wheat dough in about 3x 4 cm size . Just see this picture [1] --Appletrees 19:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Your question
- Sujeop-eo is a combined hanja word (su:手:hand)' and '졉다 (gyeop; hanja: 摺; literally "folding").<!--What about 다?-->
- Oh, I made a typo on 졉다 as gyeop instead of typing jyeop
졉다 jyeop da is an old Korean verb of jeopda 접다 and means "fold". Hanja or Chinese character imposes more than several meaning and several forms of language like verb, noun, adjective and others. Therefore, 摺 can be interpreted like 접는(jeop neun, gerund:folding), 접힌 (jeophin, adjective :folded), 접다 (jeop da, verb fold), 접어서 (jeop-eoseo, verb : making a fold) in Korean. Therefore, sujeop-eo means "something folded with hand". Actually, there were more transitions between sujeop-eo an sujebi but explaining old Korean in English is difficult for me. -_-
- In North Korea, sujebi is called milgaru ddeudeo guk (밀가루뜨더국), which is the tree combined word:<!--"tree-combined word" doesn't make sense in English.--> Milgaru (밀가루 wheat flour) + ddeudeo (뜯다 ddeutda) guk (국 soup).
- Just three words combined to one word. --Appletrees 19:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ddeudeo
''Milgaru'' (밀가루; literally "wheat flour") + ''ddeudeo'' (뜯다 ddeutda<!--Why is this an alternate pronunciation?-->) ''guk'' (국; literally "soup").
- Alternate pronunciation? what do you mean by that? ㄸ is pronounced like dd or tt like 떡 (tteok or ddeok). Ddeutda means "tear", therefore milgarue ddeudeo guk indicates "soup (consisting of small flakes) torn (from) a (dough made of) wheat flour". ( ) holds hidden meanings in the 밀가루뜨더국. --Appletrees 19:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Ah, ddeudo (뜨더) is actually regarded a false usage of ddeutda (뜯다) for South Korean (I don't Know about Korean language used for North Korean) and means "in the process of tearing", so ddeutda (뜯다) is the right form referring to "tear". In Korean etymology, when someone analyzes an ancient word into modern Korean language, if the word has an adjective or adverb form, he/she always types its verb form along with the original word. --Appletrees 20:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm aware of these pronunciation changes, but I guess it should all be explained so there's nothing unclear. Badagnani 23:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
