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[edit] I strongly dislike this article

I strongly dislike this agree and believe that it should be moved whether or not does this article hold an NPOV stance. Its not just the way it's written. It's about content. A list like this could lead a person who was searching for suicide methods to commit suicide. Why not just delete this article before something negative happens and Wikipedia will/may have to face lawsuits and attention from the public media? I seriously have no idea why this article has to be here. List the methods? Fine. They have already been said in article Suicide. And that's plenty enough, isn't it? Prowikipedians (talk) 16:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
And, what's more disturbing is that over the past TWO YEARS, there have been FIVE NOMINATIONS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THIS ARTICLE. Prowikipedians (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

That someone or other stongly dislikes this article is given. The subject is contentious. However, the quarrel has always resulted in the solution that this article is morally bonafide. --Ezeu (talk) 19:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Five nominations merely mean there have been five people who wish to have it removed. I think the fact that it's been kept every single time is a fairly strong consensus now. I would go through some of the reasons why I support the existence of the article, but it's been so thoroughly hashed out in all the previous discussions it seems pointless. Read the archives and past AfD discussions. Eve Hall (talk) 19:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Fine. Keep it then. Then some Wikipedians like me are going to use it a how-to-commit-suicide guidebook. And why thank you. Lets have Wikipedia establish some negative notability someday when a major group suicide starts by citing Wikipedia as their number one source. Prowikipedians (talk) 14:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if you are aware of this, but people managed to kill themselvesin all sorts of ways before Wikipedia was even established. If someone is feeling suicidal, I sincerely doubt the existence or non-existence of this article is going to change their mind. And, unlike a Wikipedia article, most suicide notes do not cite their sources. Beeblbrox (talk) 17:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Of course. I don't know if YOU know about this, but WIKIPEDIA HAS BECOME ONE OF THE FIRST HITS FOR SOURCES OF INFORMATION.Prowikipedians (talk) 04:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but as a how-to-commit-suicide guidebook it's pretty useless, actually. It doesn't give the necessary details required to carry out any but the most obvious methods - I can't imagine anyone wouldn't realise drowning involves immersion in water, for example. It doesn't give recipes for drug cocktails, doesn't give heights for jumping or hanging etc. A simple google search turns up masses of how-to information, for anyone who actually wants to know details. There is some rather shoddy unsourced material in there currently though, and I agree the article needs cleaning up. Eve Hall (talk) 09:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, then you tell me. Where's the list of homicide methods? I don't see it on Wikipedia, do I? Article Suicide is enough. Prowikipedians (talk) 15:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the Portuguese penal code has to do with anything. Even if it applied in this situation, nobody is inciting or assisting anything. Since everything in the article needs a verifiable citation, then by definition we're not providing any information that isn't readily available elsewhere. In response to your previous comment, Wikipedia has a lot of information about homicide and murder, in particular a category with 88 articles and 18 sub-cats. Eve Hall (talk) 16:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. Coolgamer (talk) 17:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


I agree with Prowikipedians. This article is more like a "how to" guide than an encyclopedia article. Needs a major overhaul IMO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.200.219 (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

People who want to commit suicide are going to do it one way or another. A better course of action would be keeping your opinion to yourself instead of trying to be the Internet Police. Coolgamer (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)