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This is a fairly silly How-To rather than an encyclopaedic article. I will try and re-organise everything a bit. All cut bist of text will be pasted below to make it easier for peole who do nt agree with me. Refdoc 21:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Done... Tell me what you think!Refdoc 21:41, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • Your edit is much more encyclopedic than the junk below, but what's left is still a HOWTO. At least it's not a promotional ad anymore. "Experts (like me) recommend..." — sheesh. --Ardonik 03:18, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

How-to? Don't tell me. You are right of course. But I have no clue about whirling and thought basically to take the gushing and overly personal out. The remainder might educate someone like me... Refdoc 08:26, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Sufism
This article is part of the branches of CAM series.
CAM Classifications
NCCAM: Mind-Body Intervention
Modality: Self-care
Knowledge: Enlightenment
Culture: Eastern/Middle-Eastern
  • "and whirling which resembles the rotation of other beings such as electrons and planets of the micro- and macrocosmos" this seems to be hinting at some sort of new age interpretation of the dance. is there evidence to back this statement up?
  • in fact Maulana Rumi is the big daddy of Sufi whirling in its modern format.

>>In fact he isn't. The whirling of Rumi differs from the modern format; he only used to 'whirl' as the seyh does towards the end of the sema, not as the semazens do.

  • (This definitely brings out toxins, but ultimately, also brings out the nectar of immortality)
  • - It is claimed that this is what the ancients in the Vedas meant by the Churning of the Ocean using the mount Meru (Merudanda means spinal cord in Sanskrit)... spinning using the spinal cord as a base.
  • Whirling is something which comes easily to any kid, if you remember your childhood, spinning like a top is something which kids almost do instinctively. Why only kids? Is not the whole universe with all planets, galaxies, atoms -- every part of the universe, whether micro or macro, is whirling, singing the song of divinity.
  • Sufi whirling is an exciting meditation, based on this ancient and forceful technique - going back to the real nature of the universe. The basic meditational practice is to whirl with open eyes, just like small children twirling. The meditator's whole body becomes a top, moving, spinning like a top, moving.
  • Experts (like me) recommend refraining from food or drink for three hours before whirling, and to wear loose clothing and have bare feet. Sufi whirling is divided into two stages: whirling and resting (unwhirling). There is no fixed time for the whirling—it can go on for hours or even days as did Rumi—but it is suggested that practitioners continue for at least an hour to get fully into the feeling of the energy whirlpool.
  • Some people may feel nauseous during the whirling meditation, but this feeling should disappear within two or three days. Whirlers should discontinue the meditation if it persists.
  • P.s.: If after this stage, you haven't thrown up, welcome to the world of the Sufis with simple but powerful truths... simple living and high thinking.
  • Whirling is a really cool way of whacking your mind into being quiet.. try it out.
  • Alternatively, they could learn Kathak Dancing.
  • and the whirler ideally becomes a whirlpool of energy--the periphery a storm of movement but the witness at the centre still. Practitioners suggest that an additional energy kick is made possible holding up one hand high another low below your waist facing...a true gateway for energy to pass through you. It is difficult to predict when you stop whirling and the energy takes over, but take over it does... and spins you like a top.
  • Whoever wrote this article doesn't know much about the Mevlevi Dervishes. There is no such thing as 'unwhirling' or falling down, letting one's belly button touch the floor. This sounds more like new age material than Sufism. If you'd like to see the real thing, go to Turkey and watch it for yourself.