Talk:Subtropics

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[edit] Scotland is not subtropical

The mere fact that SOME subtropical plant species can be sucessfully grown in places such as Scotland or Vancouver Island ( because of the mild low-frost winter weather due to ocean currents etc ), does not mean that these places can be considered to have a subtropical climate.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eregli bob (talk • contribs) 06:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Nonsense

"The term 'subtropics' describes the climatic region found adjacent to the tropics, usually adjacent to either the north or south pole latitudinal. "

The second part of the preceding statement makes no sense whatsoever and should be changed. I would change it myself but I have no idea what the intention of the author was. Eregli bob 06:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Same here. I dare not touch it either as it perhaps was written by a Fringe Case. Jidanni 18:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coastal Australia

This is completely wrong. Firstly, the tropic of capricorn passes straight through Austalia (including two of its coasts!) which maeans at least part of the coastline is Tropical. Secondly, are you actually suggesting that Melbourne and Hobart are situated in subtropical regions?

Also, how can you say the term only applies to 'Coastal Australia' and south africa? Both countries have non-coastal areas that are subtropical.

If nobody has an objection i'll be back to change the article. Factoid Killer 15:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Go for it. This article needs more spatial definitions to help describe the geographical regions that are the subtropics. This would help seperate it from the climate related zone known as a Subtropical climate and aid in the distinction between the two when they do not align together on a map. - Shiftchange 01:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Athens?

Athens does NOT fit the given definition at all. Either the definition must be changed or Athens not included, because in Athens it freezes and snows almost every winter. If you prefer, the definition could be improved to include the Mediterranean climate, but it's not very clear. David 11:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Talk:Subtropical climate

I think it should be merged with Subtropical climate Amirpedia 14:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree; there doesn't seem much point having this spearate article (and articles whose titles are adjectives alwsys look odd). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Should this be merged with the article Subtropics? --Editor B 17:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

That was an excellent suggestion. Moving this talk to Talk:Subtropics, as well. --Dhartung | Talk 01:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subtropical Depression 22 (2005)

Why is there a picture of Subtropical Depression 22 in the article? It has nothing to do with anything. I am removing the picture.

[edit] Miami

It says here that Miami is truly tropical, yet on the Miami page it says that it falls just short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.102.240 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 12 November 2006


Miami AP (S) 25° 48' N 80° 16' W Miami Beach Co 25° 47' N 80° 17' W


"The subtropics refers to the zones of the Earth immediately north and south of the tropic zone, which is bounded by the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn, at latitude 23.5 ° north and south. The term 'subtropics' describes the climatic region found adjacent to the tropics, closer to either the north or south pole latitudinal."

Miami tropical? Ah, close but no cigar!

[edit] Auckland

How can Auckland be subtropical? It is clearly temperate and lies in the temperate zone. Only the far north of Northland is subtropical in New Zealand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.195.86.40 (talk) 22:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Temperature

"These climates rarely - if ever - see frost or snow, and plants such as palm, citrus and many broadleaf evergreens flourish, in contrast to the hardier deciduous and coniferous trees which dominate midlatitude climates."

This isn't really correct. Places like Atlanta, Georgia or even Washington D.C. are considered to have subtropical climate but frosts and snow are relatively common there (see articles for those cities). The actual definition of a subtropical climate is that the AVERAGE temperature of the coldest month does not fall below freezing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.43.153 (talk) 23:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)