Talk:Struga

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Contents 1 Struga 2 Albanian language is official 3 Miladinov Brothers 4 Ireland101

[edit] Struga

,,Struga nje nder qytet shume te bukur qe ka maqedonia Eshte nje qyte i vogel por fale natyres per liqenin e ohrit eshte nje qytet shume turistik si per stinen e veres edhe te dimrit Banojne nje numer jo shume i madhe por shume jane dhe shume krenare qe jetojne ne qytetin e Struges.

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Sa per liqeni eshte nje bukuri e pa zakonshme qe egzistone . Fakti qe eshte shume i madhe ai ka dale jashte maqedonis nje pjes jo shume e madhe e cila ndodhet ne SHqiperi Ka shume fshatra turistuk por nje nder me te bukrit qe egzistonen ne maqedoni eshte Fërngova e cila ndodhet ne male me nje pamje shune te bukur te pa zakonshme . Ka rreth 3000 banor po jane shume te ndershem dhe te respektueshem .

Shkrojti "Fatos Musai"

Matrix, stop vandalizing the article by calling Miladinovi "Macedonians". They never called themselves Macedonians, and always called themselves Bulgarians, and therefore they are Bulgarians. Mr. Neutron 13:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

How do you know they did? Were you there when they said it? Illbehereallday 16:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Albanian language is official

See here!. 36000+ Albanians out of 63376 people, more than 20% and Albanian is official! Mr. Neutron 14:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, but as the Macedonian is primary language at national level, I'm suggesting a compromise, in the intro we would mention the Macedonian as the primary language, and in the Name section we would put both the Macedonian and Albanian. What do you think? MatriX 17:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Macedonian and Albanian are official, there is no such thing as "primary" and "secondary" official, stop reading Macedonist Daily!!. Mr. Neutron 17:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say that there is a such thing as "primary" and "secondary" official, that was said by the U.S. and EU envoys that contributed in the Ohrid agreement (see talk on the Republic of Macedonia article, I hope you remember it). MatriX 17:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

They are both official languages, stop vandalizing! Mr. Neutron 17:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Ohrid Agreement: 6.5. Any other language spoken by at least 20 percent of the population is also an official language Mr. Neutron 17:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Your forgot to write the whole text: is also an official language as specified below:... and it is strictly said that it can be used just is limited circumstances.

Check also this:[1]:

Question: U.S. reaction to Macedonia Prime Minister’s rejection of request from Albanian community to designate Albanian as the official second language for Macedonia? Is this a violation of the Ohrid Agreement?

Answer: The Government of Macedonia is in the process of preparing a language law that addresses Ohrid Framework Agreement provisions for the use of languages other than the Macedonian language. - so, as I said a hundreds times in the last days, the Albanian language is not yet accepted as the official second language for Macedonia. MatriX 17:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miladinov Brothers

There has been some edit warring going on about whether the ethnicity of the Miladinov brothers should be mentioned in this article. I propose to discuss it here instead, since the energy wasted on edit warring could be spent much better on improving the article and removing red links. In my opinion the brothers should be mentioned here, because they are the most famous sons of Struga, it should be mentioned that they were poets to explain the Poetry Evenings, and that they were Bulgarian because... I don't know. I think their ethnicity is not relevant to Struga, and it is already discussed in the article about the brothers (where of course it is relevant). The only reason I can see to put it here again is to piss off the Macedonians (or FYROMs, if you'd like to piss them off even more), which is not very encyclopedic (-: Preslav 06:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

and what about the context in which Bulgarians obviously used to live there. That implies it indirectly. Their ethnicity is not really questionable, so I don't see what's the problem with them being mentioned with it. If someone is getting pissed, maybe he should not edit. This is a simple fact -> we work with facts -> facts should be presented. If it does not suit his personal bias, it is not our consideration. --Laveol ^T 20:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ireland101

Please do not make ridiculous excuses to purge mentions of Bulgaria from the article. It is not irrendentist to state the name of the country which Tsar Samuil ruled. He was crowned as Tsar of Bulgaria afterall. ForeignerFromTheEast 23:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

It is not necessary to include the nationality of every Bulgarian that ever lived or was assosiated with Macedonia. If someone wants to find out about Samuil or others they can click the link. The fact that a couple of editors feel the need to include "Bulgarian" wherever possible has irredentist connotations of "Greater Bulgaria". As it implies the incorrect belief that "Macedonia is Bulgarian because all Macedonians were Bulgarian therefore Macedonia should be part of Bulgaria". This sort of propaganda does not belong in an encyclopedia. Ireland101 02:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do not get paranoid about simple historical facts. ForeignerFromTheEast 02:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)