Talk:String Quartet No. 13 (Beethoven)

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GREAT FUGE & RELATIONSHIP TO B flat QUARTET

Some have suggested that Beethoven's decision to separate the Great Fugue from the Quartet was an example of his chaotic side taking over (whereas his music showed unmatched logic and order) Most critics tend to say that despite Beethoven's move to accomodate the publisher, the Fugue belongs with the B flat quartet, and that any difficulty with it disappears with familiarization and listening.

I am not one of these. I find the Fuge so harsh and disonnant, that it completely overshadows and contradicts the five movements which preceed it.

If the fuge had been discovered after Beethoven's death, separate from the B flat quartet, I doubt if anyone would have automatically associated it with the latter. I think critics' insistence that the Fuge belongs only with the B flat quartet is another example of people thinking the artist's original intention (and everything else the artist does) is always right. There is another famous instance of Beethoven making a change like this - the Piano Sonata Op 53 (the Waldstein). He chose to replace the original second movement (the 'Andante Favori') with the one page 'Introduzione'. I have NEVER heard of any pianist reinstating the original second movement in this case.

It might also be argued that the title 'Bonaparte' should be reinstated to the 3rd Sympony, because that was Beethoven's original intention.

I believe there is some value in occasionally playing the Great Fuge with the rest of the B flat quartet - it gives us an idea of what Beethoven orinigally had in mind. But I would only do it as a way of reminding myself that sometime even great artists can make shocking mistakes. Thankfully, Beethoven thought better of this one, and corrected it.

I am not saying that the Great Fuge is shocking mistake, but keeping it with the rest of the B flat quartete would have been.

I think the finale he finally published with the work, although not the greatest of his string quartet movements, connects far better with the rest of the work emotionally than does the Great Fuge.