Talk:Strappado/BDSM-related content

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[edit] Picture

Is it me, or does the BDSM picture of "strappado" look nothing like the description given of it? Are we sure that's a good picture to put there? --Jacquelyn Marie 02:52, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Image is an accurate depiction of a strappado as used in BDSM activity. A dedicated entry and expanded description is now on strappado bondage. The original entry should remain here for reference purposes should a user looking for the BDSM related subject can be re-directed. Taxwomen, I've used your picture from here on the new page, I hope that's OK with you. --jbc01 07:52, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I think I understand what part is meant to be the strappado now, but at first I thought it was the strap that was between the legs. That's why I was so confused. Thanks for clarification. --Jacquelyn Marie 21:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image

This had the name of a Wikipedia editor on the image page, not the one who uploaded it, unless they're the same person. (And the face could certainly be the first editor, who also had an image on her user page.) I therefore feel it's inappropriate to use it until we establish who owns the copyright and/or whether the person in the photograph has given permission for it to be used on Wikipedia. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, Slim, I can't understand your explanation. The image page says it was uploaded by Taxwoman, who has asserted that it's PD. Taxwoman added the photo to the page.
Are you suggesting that this is a copyright image? Have you found it on the web somewhere? Why do you think that the person who uploaded it doesn't have the right to release it into the public domain? Would you be happier if they tagged it GFDL?
I'm asking these questions because I'm concerned that you could be seen to be being nothing more than vindictive towards the editor in question. I know this is not the case, so I am asking for clarification. I ask the other editors concerned not to put the image back on the page in respect of the need to consider that you must have respectable reasons, but please do answer in short order and we can sort this out. -- Grace Note.

I have to note though that the woman does bear a passing resemblance to one featured on this site, which provides the picture for strappado bondage. -- GN

No, it said it was Rachel Brown, another editor who Taxwoman says is a friend of hers, and who others say is the same person. If it's the same person and it's definitely an image of herself, she's welcome to add it. But if it's someone else, we need to know that that person agrees to its use. Why on earth would I be vindictive? I know nothing about these editors. Indeed, the vindictive thing would be to leave it on the page. SlimVirgin (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the site you linked to, but if you think it's someone on that site, that makes it not so bad, though we'd have to claim fair use, and I don't know if we can do that for images like this. But I wouldn't care one way or the other if you wanted to do this. My only concern is that a woman whose name is on the image page (a prior version of the image page) is being depicted and may not have given her consent. SlimVirgin (talk) 07:31, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I wrote to the editor the photograph was identified as, and although the response wasn't clear, she didn't say it was her or that she objected to its use, so I have no further concerns. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:58, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

This was nonsense. The photo was not of Rachel Brown and looked nothing like her. The caption was altered from "a friend" to "Rachel Brown" by an anonymous vandal. - Taxwoman 14:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BDSM inline stuff replaced with link

I have replaced the BDSM stuff with a link to the relevant article. As I wrote in my edit summary, having it here totally trivializes the main topic of this page. Here we are writing about a severe form of torture, so let's be serious and not draw shallow comparisons with something that some people choose to subject themselves to for fun. Thanks. Arbitrary username 15:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related issue, I am now also removing two of the categories:
Although the article still appears to fit these categories to some extent according to their names, it is reasonably clear from the other articles in these categories that they relate largely to BDSM issues. As such, I think they are not useful for this article as it now stands, adding nothing beyond the categorization under Category:Torture which I am of course retaining. Arbitrary username 22:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)