Talk:Storm of October 1804

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An entry from Storm of October 1804 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on May 18, 2006.

Storm of October 1804 was a good article, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Delisted version: Error: invalid time

Contents 1 Todo 2 Failed GA 3 GA issues 3.1 GA-promotion 4 GA review 5 Title

[edit] Todo

I'm not sure what more can be added, but more is needed for Start class. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Does the expansion of the intro warrant and upgrade to start class? Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Not yet. There's probably not enough info on this storm to justify an article. That said, you could always try googling the storm, and possibly get more info to add. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

There you go. Quite a bit more expanded. Icelandic Hurricane #12 00:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's start. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I did a general copyedit and upgraded it to B-Class, Good job Icelandic Hurricane #12! Storm05 15:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Icelandic Hurricane #12 19:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Can someone please fix the death chart thingy? I can't quite get it right. íslenska hurikein #12_(samtal) 15:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Failed GA

I have added {{Fact}} in the article where a cite is needed to explain POV or a reword. The external links section is just a list of numbers the links need names. I realise that images from the actual storm arent possible, in the trivia section there is mention of a church maybe a possible picture of that. There is a link to a estimated track of the storm, suggest that a track be made to go into the article. The image and track items are suggestions and wouldnt stop me supporting a future GA nomination. Over all compared to the other storm articles I have recently reviewed the prose of this is a vague. Please no offense intended to the editors this article is more a struggling B-class (on the assestment scale). Gnangarra 11:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'll drop it to a start class, as some never agreed to the B class. Icelandic Hurricane, are you on this? Hurricanehink (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "Are you on this". Icelandic Hurricane #12_(talk) 13:43, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

You wrote the article. Are you going to fix the comments Gnangarra mentioned? Hurricanehink (talk) 13:50, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Yea. I asked Jdorje if he could make a track map, though I doubt he can. And I put and image of the Old North Church on the article. More to come. Icelandic Hurricane #12_(talk) 14:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA issues

I have put this on hold for 7 days the section on impact needs to have the unit measure format adjusted so that it use wikistandard xx inches (xx cm). Besides this I gave it a couple of minor edits including where I had previously asked for a cite, once the UOM are done it can be promoted to GA. Gnangarra 11:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, did that. íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 14:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA-promotion

that was quick, I altered the measurments to mm or meters where appropriate, for you information meteoroligcal service use mm in preference to cm. Where object heights exceeds 3 feet use metres. Congratulations on to the editors of this article on attaining GA status it has significantly improved since my previous review. Gnangarra 14:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

I put this article up for GA review, as it doesn't meet all of the GA criteria.

• It's not particularly well-written - "winds reached as far as Norfolk with winds", "One ship was reported to have passed through the gale, damage to the vessel is unknown." (what does the ship have to do with the storm history?), "probably over Atlantic Canada", "An estimated track of the storm can be viewed here" (not encyclopediac), "blankets of snow to anywhere between New York and Southern Canada", "quite a loss of money", "worst recorded amount", "New York City received the worst recorded amount of snow from the storm; the pressure dropped from 992.5 mbar to 977.6 mbar over night. Rainfall totals reached 2.77 inches (70 mm)." (worst recorded amount doesn't make sense, and mentioning pressure later in the sentence is awkward), "In Bemis, New York, in the western section of New York, snow and rain was reported to have fallen." (is the exact location needed?), etc.
• It's missing some sources
• I'm not so sure if it's broad enough in its coverage. True, it occurred over 200 years ago, but the article relies almost entirely on three main sources

Hurricanehink (talk) 20:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title

I propose the title be changed, since it's not very accurate. 1804 New Jersey hurricane? 1804 New England hurricane? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)