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Contents 1 Date Ernst and Albrecht wrote to the Pope 2 Bad link 3 Stollen, American Version 4 Pfannkuchen? 5 Light and airy

[edit] Date Ernst and Albrecht wrote to the Pope

There seems to be many contradictory dates and popes on the internet for this event. I've chosen a date when the brothers were alive and not little boys, and a Pope who was also alive then :-). Various popes actually wrote grants, as the first one just let the nobility use butter and later popes extended it more. I suppose that's why other years and popes are named (Nicholaus V, Innocent X...) but their names are probably too much detail for the article itself and would spoil the tale. Saintswithin 13:02, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bad link

The recipe link for American Stollen has a live link but the recipe is gone. So I deleted it. Here's the link if anyone wants to replace it:

• American Stollen recipe

[edit] Stollen, American Version

I ate some stollen over the holidays and was sickened by it. Overweight Americans suck this stuff up. proserpine Jan 7, 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.250.29.104 (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Pfannkuchen?

In the article a "Pfannkuchen" is described as a doughnut without the hole. In almost all of Germany "Pfannkuchen" refers to pancakes and the holeless doughnut is called "Berliner", except for Berlin, where it is called "Pfannkuchen"... Yeah, Germany can be quite confusing. --77.179.128.214 (talk) 23:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Stollen is from Saxony, and in Saxony (northern Germany, mid-eastern Germany) a Pfannkuchen is a holeless doughnut. "Berliner" is short for "Berliner Pfannkuchen": a type of Pfannkuchen typical of Berlin. In Berlin, as it is the most common type of Pfannkuchen, obviously it's just known as "Pfannkuchen"; in other places (southern Germany) where it isn't as common, they call it "Berlin Pfannkuchen" to explain which type they mean. It's like custard; in France it's called "crème anglaise" (English cream), but clearly people in England don't call it "English cream" as they don't need to specify that it is English. Saint|swithin 09:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Light and airy

"Stollen is a light airy fruitcake"
Maybe you should try one as soon as possible. I am quite sure, that most of the readers get a wrong impression of lightness in the context of a "Stollen".--83.171.169.222 21:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I've lived in Dresden for 15 years and have Stollen coming out of my ears at this time of year. I was comparing it with heavy, rich British fruitcakes, such as Christmas cake (see pictures), I suppose. It's all quite subjective, isn't it? In any case, if you disagree, don't forget - you're the editor! Saint|swithin 07:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The recipe that I use comes from Austria, and it is truly light an airy. It is a white bread with a little sweetness (1/2 cup sugar for a 2 loaf batch versus just the usual tablespoon or so to get the yeast going), and it is loaded with citron and raisins —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.41.20.44 (talk) 20:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

I'm from Saxony and have eaten Stollen for the last 20 years. Trust me, at least the Stollen in Saxony isn't light and airy at all. In fact, a good Stollen should be quite heavy and have a rather moistly texture.84.181.99.113 11:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

My comment above still applies, but I've removed the offending phrase myself as everyone else seems too polite to be bold ...? Saint|swithin 18:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)