Talk:Stockport Viaduct

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[edit] Speedy Deletion Arguement

Please keep as i'm going to make the page more relevant with information on it. The viaduct is a landmark of stockport and deserves a place on wikipedia. Aaron Allen (talk) 20:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing the speedy deletion has been removed? Aaron Allen (talk) 20:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

yeah, people are very quick to delete stuff on here...Paulbrock (talk) 19:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your help :) Aaron Allen (talk) 20:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help : Contents

How do I add a contents to this article? Aaron Allen (talk) 20:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Add another section or two and it will automatically appear. Paulbrock (talk) 00:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1840 act

Anyone know about the 1840 act of parliament that requires all trains crossing the viaduct to stop at Stockport? There is a petition here to enforce it. Petition [1] Stockport express:[2]. Billlion (talk) 10:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

More on Stockport herutage blog. [3]Billlion (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other sources

I note that the page is a work in progress, so I am holding off adding material at the moment. But I was looking for info on the topic. The following may be useful.

  1. L.S. Lowry connections [4], Lowry sketching the viaduct, sketches auctioned. viaduct painting stolen, [5]
  2. Who designed it? "Designed by George Watson Buck", [6]
  3. Opened on June 4th 1840 Ref "The Railways of Great Britain and Ireland Practically Described" on google books [7]
  4. Coords? 53°24'34"N 2°9'56"W according to Wikimapia. Use the coord template.
  5. Widening in 1890. The widening of Edgley Viaduct, Stockport, about 1890. Note they call it Edgley Viaduct?
  6. More history

"The first section of the Manchester & Birmingham to be completed ran from a temporary station in Manchester, at Travis Street, to a temporary station at Heaton Norris, on the Lancashire side of the Stockport viaduct. Opened for traffic on 4 June 1840, this short line was an immediate success, carrying nearly 2,000 passengers a day during the second half of 1840. Two years later, on 10 May 1842, train services were extended from Heaton Norris to Sandbach and the permanent Manchester station in Store Street was opened. " [8] [9]

  1. Which act of parliament? discussion. It still does not seem clear exactly which Act they are talking about.
  2. "New Perspectives in British Cultural History" Rosalind Crone David Gange and Katy Jones, [10] about the impact of the viaduct. See also picture on p 22 from an old book. (is it out of copyright?).
  3. Dimensions: Quotes "an article, which can be seen in the covered market, on the wall of The Coffee Pot cafe, which is entitled "Dimensions of the Stockport Viaduct", which gives the statistics for the original viaduct," [11], "Railway was laid on the 10th of March, 1839, and was completed December 22nd, 1840, at a cost of £70,000." (No contradiction i've seen this site myself i'm sure it says the first brick was laid?)."The extreme length is 1,786 feet; it has 22 semicircular arches, each of 63 ft. span, four of 20ft. span, and two at each abutment. The height (to the surface of the rails) is 111 feet from the bed of the river,"
  1. Restoration and floodlit [12]
  2. Heritage Book 2 Stockport Viaduct [13] Stockport Viaduct so good they built it twice". Worth getting a copy perhaps.
  3. Stockport and District Heritage Magazine. [14] Current issue has an article on widening the viaduct. Nice picture [15].
  4. There is a book "Holland, Vincent.The Stockport railway viaduct : and the Manchester & Birmingham Railway Company.", so surely worth getting. I found it mentioned here station with links to library holdings. The blogger could not find details of the act either. Billlion (talk) 12:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Great work.... the designer is listed on Wikipedia at George W. Buck.Paulbrock (talk) 13:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1890 Section

What was wrong with this section? Aaron Allen (talk) 12:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Just an edit conflict I think. Maybe we had better use the "inuse" tag. Billlion (talk) 13:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another pic

. Not very good though.Paulbrock (talk) 13:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Better one at: [16] Paulbrock (talk) 13:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

It would be nice to have one with a very long view to give a sense of the scale of it.Billlion (talk) 13:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I live in the area, at least at the weekend I am there. I'll try get a decent one :) Aaron Allen (talk) 21:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation?

Azallen, the new section on the widening looks like a copy vio from [17] Could you rewrite it in your own words please? Also I think some of the bits in History looked like a direct copy (are they still?). Billlion (talk) 09:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)