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D'oh-Tess Daly is from Birch Vale,Derbyshire...9 miles away!

Any other wiki-ers living in Stockport?

Me! --Deskana 11th July 2005, 00:46 (GMT) from Stockport

Yes, my name is Scooter.

I do! (in Cheadle Hulme) Moitio (talk) 20th July 2005, 16:03 (GMT)

nice, that's where I go to college (CAMSFC) - do you know Peter Hulme by any chance?

What the hell happened to Ridge Danyers? Dmn / Դմն 22:34, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

It was re-named "Cheadle and Marple Sixth Form College", no idea why.

i know yea i went there on a taster day ridge danyers sounds so much better. i'm sarah by the way and i live in Bramhall

cool, you started there this year then? ive just started the 2nd year. Kris from Reddish

I do. I live in adswood. Stockport is a shithole. Yes, yes it is.

Don't drag the rest of Stockport down with Adswood! CharlieT

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[edit] Revert

I reverted it back to the version after the WCML was added as some of the notable people were lost after the vandalism. Also I have measured the crow flies distance from the Merseyway Shopping centre to Piccadilly Gardens on Google Earth. It came out at 5.75 miles so it can stay at 6 on the article. Phildav76 22:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IS THIS MEANT TO BE SERIOUS?

"Stockport is a town in Greater Manchester, in North West England, within the traditional borders of Cheshire. The town of Stockport has a population of 136,082 (2001 census). It is the largest town within the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport."

Three sentences all containing the words 'Stockport' and 'town' Do we really need to be told for a second time that Stockport is a 'town' as in "The town of Stockport has a population of 136,082 (2001 census)." AND for a third time "It is the largest town within the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport."? And does it really come as a surprise to anyone at all that "It is the largest town within the Metropolitan Borough of Stockport."? Can life be any more boring in Stockport? Surely if STOCKPORT is 'a town in Greater Manchester', then it is no longer 'within the traditional borders of Cheshire'? (Local government reorganisation obviously put pay to Cheshire's "traditional borders", whatever those were!)

Anyway I have learnt a lot about 'Sunny Stockport' in those three sentences, but perhaps someone can now sub-edit them into better English, ie one continuous sentence which does not repeat the words 'Stockport' and 'town'? Try saying a suburb of Manchester!

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{{sofixit}} --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of YOUR OPINIONS 18:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I have reworded it now. Any better and less repetitive? -- Phildav76 18:21, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
With the best will in the world, not better. I prefer it as it was. I'm with his lordship; bring on the deathless prose, Nitramrekcap Mr Stephen 23:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Note the Following:

Anyone who is wondering; the Police Force in Stockport is the Greater Manchester Police.

I recently noted someone mistakenly call it the "Manchester Metropolitan Police". (See History of article)

Please dont anyone make this mistake again.

Dep. Garcia 19:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Residents

To delete the whole section does seem a little extreme, however we do not want non-notables included.

I think that if the resident has their own wiki page they cold be classed as notable and a short paragraph/whole page could be written.

We should reinstate the section with resident included if they have their own page. Olive Oil 08:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


But what defines a "notable" compared to a "non-notable" - isn't this a subjective judgement? To the list on the main page you might add the following:- Joanne Whalley-Kilmer(actress); Davy Jones (lead singer, the Monkees); Freddie Garrity (lead singer of early 1960's combo Freddie and the Dreamers); Mike Yarwood (comedian and impressionist); Fred Perry (Britain's last male Wimbledon champion); Yvette Fielding (TV presenter).

I'm not even going to try to get sniffy and identify "non-notables" in that list... they all, I think, merit inclusion, because they're from Stockport, and achieved a degree of merit and recognition in their own chosen fields. Besides, Davy Jones' family used to run a bike/sports/fishing tackle shop in Reddish, which made the experience of watching that great Californian group The Monkees on TV quite surreal... (86.155.78.146 (talk) 20:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC))

It would be best to add these people to the List of people from Stockport article. From there (at a later date) the most notable people can be selected to go in the Notable people section in this article. Yes, arguably this would lead to subjective judgements, but unless you can suggest something else it will have to do; not everyone can be fitted in. Nev1 (talk) 21:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Parliamentary representation

I have reverted (diff) some changes to the Parliamentary representation section, as the changes were not consistent with the definitions of the parts of ther town. What are the problems with the text we have had here for some time, ie There are four parliamentary constituencies in the Stockport Metropolitan Borough: Stockport, Cheadle, Hazel Grove, and Denton and Reddish? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr Stephen (talk • contribs) 09:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] More than a name

Some debate over whether to add this external site to articles covering each Stockport towns. Appreciate any feedback, at Talk:Heaton_Moor. --Oscarthecat 06:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

I have used Adrian Room's Dictionary of English Place-Names and A.D. Mills' similar book, and both seem to cite Old English stoc-port "village with market" as etymology. Would this be an acceptable change?? --SunStar Net talk 13:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Arrowsmith gives a longer discussion than Mills, it would probably be worth your while reading it first. I don't know Room's book. Mr Stephen 13:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source

Just a note that I found this interesting source. Looks very useful for the article. -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extents

This article has been marked for attention and improvement to GA level, see WT:GM. For the avoidance of future controversy, this article covers the "Stockport" marked by the pre-1974 county borough. It is pretty-well covered by this map at A vision of Britain through time, and also by an early 1970s A-Z in my possession.

That is: north of the Mersey/Tame, all of the Heatons and Reddish; Inter Goyt et Tame, Brinnington; going round clockwise: Portwood, Offerton, Great Moor, Stepping Hill, Woodsmoor, Adswood (debateable?) and Cheadle Heath. But not: Romiley, Marple, Hazel Grove, Bramall, Cheadle Hulme or Cheadle.

If there is to be any debate, can we thrash it out sooner, rather than later? Mr Stephen (talk) 16:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Just to stir things up: Bramhall's postal town is Stockport, so (arguably) it should be included.--Jotel (talk) 17:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Postal towns are very poor indicators of boundaries, for example, Stretford's is Manchester and Hale Barns' is Warrington. Nev1 (talk) 17:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
In the general, all of Stockport MBC except Gatley & the Cheadles are in the Stockport post town. In the specific, Bramhall pre-1974 was in Hazel Grove and Bramhall UD. So probably no, Bramhall is out. Mr Stephen (talk) 18:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Fine, I'm not going to declare edit war because of that :-) --Jotel (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)