Talk:Stirlitz
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[edit] Spelling
What is the deal with the spelling of the name Stirlitz? I see three different versions.
eae 06:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it should be under "Stierlitz", as it spells properly in the first paragraph: "Otto von Stierlitz (rusky Штирлиц)" and in czech language of Wikipedia itself http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz. I wanted to edit the entire article (substitute Stirlitz with Stierlitz), but then still would need to change the header to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz, and I don't know how to do it or request it. Someone who knows should do that. Thanks.
User:Michael Borodin 21:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Shtirlits would be the usual transcription. Stierlitz would look the most like a German name. However, I believe the standard English rendering is "Stirlitz." This can be verified in Routledge Encyclopedia of Contemporary Russian Culture (ed. Smorodinskaya, 2006) which has an article on Stirlitz (the proofs did at least, I have not yet seen the final product).
In the first episode of the series his personal file is shown. His name is spelled there as "von Stierlitz, Max Otto"
[edit] Stirlitz after '45??
Umm the article says "Years later when Stirlitz returned to Russia he was arrested by forces sympathetic to Beria. Stalin's death saved Stirlitz from the gulag." What is this referring to? In the series, we do not know this. We aren't even sure if he survives the war (this might be hinted though). And it cannot be referring to the real man Stirlitz, because, there was none (so far as I know, at least). I am going to remove this for the meantime.
Similarly: "He spoke all European languages except Irish and Albanian. He favored the intellectual approach over violence and is believed to have killed only one time in his fifty year career as an agent." I don't believe anything about what languages Stirlitz speaks is ever mentioned in the show (I just watched it last week). Is this again a reference to the "real Stirlitz"? I won't edit this for now.
We also know that Stirlitz has been working in Germany for twenty years. Since he is around fifty in the show, I am not sure how we can know that he has a fifty-year career as an agent. True, he only kills once in the show, but we have no way of knowing that this is the only time he has killed in his career, nor that his career is to last thirty years more. I also won't edit this for now in case I'm just missing something.
- This info is based on (not referenced) later works of Semenov. For further explanation, see Russian Wiki article --Bicycle repairman 01:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] KGB before 1954
I think the article should be revised. KGB existed 1954-1991, not during the WWII.
"This particular scenario, and others similar to it, since it was made in the Cold War, was more propaganda than anything else, as though the Western Allies did allow some high-ranking Nazi members into the West, it should be noted that the Soviets did much the same thing to a greater extent, and the Allies were adament in destroying organizations fanatical to the Nazis"
This part seems to be biased a bit. Especially the phrase that the Soviets allowed some high-ranking Nazi members into the East to a GREATER EXTENT. What's the purpose of this line in the first place? I believe there is no need to start once again this dispute about who won the war and who is more righteous when telling about this wonderful movie.
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Stirlitz.jpg
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BetacommandBot 11:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
