Talk:Still Standing (TV)

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Contents 1 Neutrality/accuracy of character descriptions 2 Photo needed for the article 3 Trivia 4 Brian Miller 5 Linda and Perry`s Children

[edit] Neutrality/accuracy of character descriptions

The descriptions of the characters cast the characters in a negative light, and overlook their good and redeeming qualities that are what make us love these characters. In additon, some of the facts are wrong. For example:

• The description of Bill uses the weasel words "often perceived" in characterizing him as a lazy overweight Homer Simpson type. I don't see him that way, so if this article is going to make that assertion this should be backed up with a reference to a critical review.

• Bill Miller isn't the main breadwinner for the family - I think Judy makes more than he does as a dental hygienist.

• Brian has friends, so I wouldn't call his social life "poor". Perhaps he aspires to be more popular and part of the in-crowd.

• Calling Lauren a "typical irritable, hormonal, and spoiled teenage older daughter" is pretty harsh, and I think dismisses her as a person. "Typical" means nothing, as it is a subjective and therefore relative concept.

• Danny is " Bill's best friend for the rest of the show". Since when?

In general, I just think the tone needs to be changed so the reader can see the characters for who they are. Steve carlson 04:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I would guess Judy probably makes more than Bill the toilet salesman, but on your other points I don't see why this qualifies the article for a neutrality dispute. Going one by one:

1. Everyone loves Homer Simpson. I'd never heard that reference before, but it's a fair comparison as he too is lazy and overweight. Why are you using the words 'weasel'?

2. Brian does have a lame social life compared to, say, Lauren's. The parents are always picking on him about it, saying they never expected him to lose his virginity. His band was a barbershop quartet. Perhaps it could be worded better.

3. Lauren is typical. Remember the episode where she's depressed and they didn't want to believe it- "...yeah, she's a teenager~" What other words would you use? She's portrayed as most teenage females in our society (i.e. sitcom society) are.

5. This just means that Fitz wasn't credited as a main character until seasons 3 and 4.

I think this does need some cleaning up, which I will work on. But it's not so bad as to be biased. --Nelliebellie 03:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo needed for the article

Does anyone know how to navigate Wikipedia's convoluted copyright process so we can have a photo of the cast on the site? Thanks! --Shannontakita 14:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

In the episode, "Still Drinking", Linda jokes that Brian's middle name is "Hops" and Lauren's is "Barley"; both references to Bill and Judy's love of beer. -- Just a joke or are the names legit? (good addition to the trivia section if they are; and does Tina have a similar middle name?) vmz 02:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know where the house shown as the Millers' house (exterior bumper shots) is actually located? Looks like it could be in a Chicago suburb. 71.201.236.104 22:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Miller

Why exactly is there a totally separate article only for him. I mean there probably wouldn't be much a problem if there was one just for him. A Lone Gamer 23:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The easy answer is, "Because no one has created articles for any of the other characters." Midknightryder13 10:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linda and Perry`s Children

Through out the series Linda never had children even though she got married to Perry you would think that at least by the last season of the show or in the series final Linda and Perry would have had children all ready or at least in the series final they would have found out they were going to have a child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.106.105 (talk) 20:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)