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[edit] Mankie Farankie or however u spelll it

i think he should be mentioned in the Still Game Page. Bobo6balde66 18:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Manky Frankie is how you spell it. He is mentioned under the semi-recurring characters section. Douglasnicol 21:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

klkl thankz 86.16.105.101 19:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added the semi-recurring characters into the entry, if anyone feels like expanding on it, feel free Douglasnicol 21:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

what about that guy in the Housing place . he appears in Flittin' and All The Best. whats his name and maybe he could be added. i might add him later Bobo6balde66 01:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mena and Maris

Is there any evidence that Meena's face being unseen is "a tribute to Maris Crane from another sitcom, Frasier"? As List of unseen characters attests, there are any number of such partially hidden characters (she's correctly listed in the "Heard but never completely seen" section there). Unless someone can cite a reliable source that Meena really is inspired by Maris, this is original research which we should remove. This comparison appears to stem from one-day user:81.155.36.136 's additions to the article back in October 2005 - [1] -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I think I remember hearing Kiernan and Hemphill mention it on the commntary on the Series 2 DVD. 81.153.146.81 01:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Real life locations

I know the article says much of the show is filmed in Maryhill, but could somebody list the actual locations? For example, the street Navid's shop is located and the actual tower-block where Jack and Victor live?

The Street where navid's shop is , is in a Place called Townhead (i live there and watch when there filming) Bobo6balde66 01:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The part of Glasgow where Jack moves from in the episode Flittin' is South Nitshill, before the old closes were demolished.

[edit] Meena

The article says "Meena's face is never seen, as a tribute to Maris Crane from another sitcom, Frasier." I was never a big fan of Frasier, but I think that unlike Meena, the character Maris was never seen on screen at-all, only spoken of, like Arthur Daley's "'er indoors". Meena is seen but either from behind, or with her face obscured by some object etc. Is this really a tribute to Frasier? Jooler 10:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famouse Fans

there seems to be lots of Famouse fans maybe some one could add a section called Famouse Fans Bobo6balde66 01:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chris The Postie

Does anyone think Chris should be added to the semi-recurring characters? He's appeared in quite a few episodes (about the same as, if not more than, Frances). 68.4.142.167 01:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes and Pictures

I added the quotes and i think there should be more pictures on the page Bobo6balde66 17:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] New revision

I've noticed that someone's cleaned up the article at the expense of the character guide and the episode guide.

I've started List of Still Game Characters which currently holds the character guide from the old article. I'll probably also be editing List of Still Game episodes to include full episode summaries. (Best to have a series overview on the main article, and with full episode summaries and notes on the episode page)

Category:Still Game also started.

--Gaz C 04:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the editing. I just felt that the article was getting out of hand with new sections that weren't needed. A character list article is a great idea, as is the episode guides on the episode page. Sorry about the editing once again; really should have left a note on the talk page explaining. -- Britishagent 09:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, no problem, it really is looking alot better now anyway (Especially the trivia section).

--Gaz C 14:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review: Errors and Inconsistencies and the Trivia section

Do these sections really have a place in the article? It's not really referenced (esp. Errors and Inconsistencies), and so might be construed as original research. However, integrating those sections into the main article with proper citations is quite OK. Also, the article keeps going between "1" and "one" etc. Try to be consistent! Also, the Series summaries need to be referenced better. I'll put it on hold for now - but these are minor details CloudNine 20:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The trivia can be integrated into other sections of the article but the errors and inconsistencies section can't. It is not well referenced but what do we reference to? The episodes in which they appear? As you can see, for every entry it is listed what season/episode it is from. Same with the episode guides - what references do we give when they are only summaries? Thanks for reviewing. -- Britishagent 21:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Also, many series and films have similiar sections. The Pearl Harbor film section, the entry for The Prisoner, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, Space:1999 to name a few. Douglasnicol 23:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I take back my comments about the trivia section - so long as it remains a good readable size (for example, The Prisoner's trivia section is way too big). About the season summaries, is there not an episode guide/summary elsewhere on the web? CloudNine 15:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
There is the section on TV.com, detailing the episodes but they're not any more longer than the ones have been created here. But if references are needed, should we link to each episode guide throughout the article? -- Britishagent 16:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I've changed my mind after looking at other season synposes. I've passed the article, keep improving it! CloudNine 15:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subtitled when first broadcast in England?

Can anyone confirm if the BBC put subtitles on Still Game during early broadcasts in England? Ninja-lewis 01:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think any subtitles were mentioned but there was concern that the BBC weren't broadcasting south of the border, in case people couldn't understand the thick Glaswegian accents. Guest-star of the series Sylvester McCoy actually commented on it in 2004. Hope this helps. -- Britishagent 18:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
You can get subtitles to many broadcast TV shows on page 888 of teletext or by selecting the captions option on cable or satellite. When Rab C Nesbitt, which was set in Govan, was first broadcast in the early 1990s, as a sassanach I'd usually switch on the page 888 subtitles to enable me to follow the show. --Tony Sidaway 13:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finport

Just a note, I recently purchased the Fifth series DVD, and in the Finport scenes, it is NOT Nardinis that is visible. The white building you see is the one near the Calmac slipway, I believe it was once called 'The Moorings' and had shops in the bottom floors and upstairs served as a ballroom/function room. Douglasnicol 17:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First National Showing

I edited the article to include the fact that five episodes taken from the first two series were shown on national BBC2 from from 17 January to 14 February 2004, as mentioned at[2] and I know this is accurate because I watched them and I don't live in Scotland, but it still states inaccurately elsewhere in the article that the series wasn't shown nationwide until series 4. 195.80.22.96 12:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Kill Wullie" dedicated to Wullie (not wullie in the episode)

Kill Wullie was dedicated to Johnny Irving who played Wullie McIntosh. its weird they dedicated it to him and the title was KILL and well im conusedBobo6balde66 18:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that's to do with the plot of the episode being Isa and others thinking that Wullie's new girlfriend is trying to kill him to get his house. The title is, I'd guess, a play on the films "Kill Bill", Wullie naturally being the Glaswegian contraction of WIlliam (never met a 'Bill' in Glasgow). Just so happened the guy playing Wullie died and they dedicated it to him. Title hasn't got anything to do with that. Renquist 12:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "To do" list

The to do list includes a number of points, including mentioning minor, but recurring characters from Still Game. Shouldn't this particular point be removed as they are in the Still Game characters page? Douglasnicol 16:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jack's death??

I don't think Jack's death will come to series 6. If you disagree with my disagree find a suitable reference. {172.189.252.208 00:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)}

He nearly, but not quite died. Swaddon1903 12:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Wan in, wan oot. --Tony Sidaway 12:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Errors and inconsistencies

I've removed a section called "Errors and inconsistencies" for two reasons really. Firstly these things tend to be original research. A good example of where it can go wrong is where somebody thought that the phone system would go down if there was a power cut. But even if this were correct it would still be original research to describe this as an error.

Secondly this is giving undue weight to trivial aspects of the production. This program is known for its high quality scripts, ensemble work, and its popularity: trouncing the likes of Catherine Tate and Steve Coogan and winning Scottish BAFTAs. The odd script inconsistency goes mostly unnoticed and unremarked, so singling them out here is not appropriate. --Tony Sidaway 13:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chucklevision?

How is Chucklevision a related show to Still Game? Swaddon1903 12:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

None that I can see. I see no coincidences in production or cast, so I've removed it for now. --Tony Sidaway 12:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episodes

I think the series summarys should be changed to simple sumaries of that series and the episode summeries should be moved to seperate articles in List of Still Game episodes, like other TV articles. anyone agree?Andrew22k 15:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The age rating

I guess that this article should contain information about how vulgar this series is. I hav not seen it myself, so I can not write about it. It should contain information about if it's safe for children to watch and such. What do the rest of ye think? A33+33 20:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

IMDB says it's rated (certified) 12. That should reasonably be mentioned. Do we have a reliable source that can back that up? —C.Fred (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Which is a rating reserved for the DVD/videotape release. I'm not sure how, if it all, to describe its rating for broadcasts. —C.Fred (talk) 21:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

The first 3 series were rated 12 by the BBFC, but series 4-6 were rated 15. These are the DVD ratings, but there's no difference between the episodes broadcast and the DVD episodes. DVD Smith 00:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)