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[edit] Clean up
I think that prehaps the critque for the bands at the end of the article could be cleaned up. Saying that the 1st line up of The Dammed was the best is obviously personal preffence, but does indicate blantant bias. Overall good article but jus teh end portion needs work.
I would add: The descriptions of the bands is certainly biased. The Damned should be called proto-punks rather than cartoon punks - agreed a lot of people don't like them, hence the bias, but punk was out to defy, confront and shock and Vanian's interpretive camp horror is surely as valid as MacLaren's somewhat self-serving situationism. Neither were the Adverts second-generation; if counting generations is of any meaning then the Adverts were in the first.PhilPalmer 04:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Why do the artists need descriptions at all? - after all, almost all of the have their own WP pages. --Pfold 18:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the comments about the descriptions of both The Damned and The Adverts, both were in the first generation of punk bands to emerge and gain some recognition in the form of a recording contract. I should also like to add that Graham Parker & The Rumour, though appearing via an uncredited track on the Bunch of Stiffs LP were actually signed to Vertigo at the time Stiff was launched. The Rumour later signed a contract with Stiff, releasing two albums and a number of singles, but they were hardly among the early roster of Stiff artistes. Theshadowgallery 11:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)TheShadowGallery
[edit] Citations
This page makes reference to the similarity between the first single released on Stiff (Nick Lowe's "So It Goes") and an unnamed Thin Lizzy track of the same era. Searching Google for such information threw up a review on Dealtime at http://www.dealtime.com/xPR-Basher_The_Best_Of_Nick_Lowe_Nick_Lowe~RD-59694485124 which makes this same claim. I own copies of both discs; playing them back to back shows (to my mind) no similarity in sound, production, style or the music played. I think that this claim should either be backed up by stronger evidence or removed completely. If there were a court case ("He's so Fine" vs "My Sweet Lord" for instance) or even consideration of one ("In The City" by The Jam vs "Holidays in the Sun" by The Sex Pistols), then I think that this would be sufficient evidence to make this claim. As it is, then to me this is merely one person's opinion, which doesn't match my own. Theshadowgallery 15:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Agree: That review might well have been the source of the info. It's certainly not an authoritative source. I suggest you move the statement from the article to here, pending verification. Wwwhatsup (talk) 16:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Images
I haven't seen any rules that would contradict the insertion of the logo so big at the start of the article, but it does seem over the top. And the earlier 'flexible' logo seemed quite sufficient - the included slogan being a truer indicator of Stiff style. Having both on the article seems unnecessary. I'm considering reverting. Any arguments? Wwwhatsup (talk) 17:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't have any problem with having two logos for the same article, although in this case, they're so similar, I don't think the second one really adds anything. I do however, feel that that large image ought to be thumbnailed. That gives the viewer the option of seeing it at his or her preferred size. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 17:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
