Talk:Sticker art
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" A world wide sicker art community exists through various internet sites allowing artists to trade stickers through the post with other sticker artists from around the world. Often the receiving artist will keep a few of the stickers for their collection and put the rest of the traded stickers up around their own city and email photos of the placement to the original artist. This allows a sticker artist to get their work on the streets in cities where they wouldn't be able to put them themselves allowing the artist to reach a much wider audience than with other forms of street art.'
I have removed this because is has nothing to do with sticker art directly.
[edit] Sticker Poetry
A subcategory on sticker poetry would be good. Or a mention of it. Kevin Doran 13:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] pop.ac
The art critic - David Galloway - wrote about documenta 9 and my art - International Herald Tribune 1992 -> http://www.pop.ac/print001.html - CNN - the artclub, a Hamburg special 1999 - showed my art. I work with stickers since 1987 - My art has 3 major sections: 1.) art with recycled stickers - these are my works 2.) let's stick together - these are happenings, interactiv, I provide stickers and the people stick 3.) divine sticker art - at holy places I connect with the god // All this you can see at www.pop.ac on more than 6000 pages. -
kind regards pop.ac —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 00:05, April 25, 2007
- See this recent edit .
- Pop.ac, your work is inspiring... but you should not be the one to say! Please consider the community guidelines recommending against editing subjects with which you are personally involved. I recommend reverting these again based soley upon Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines. As a side note, I imagine sticker art has been around as long as the word sticky, probably longer ;). Best.. ∴ here…♠ 02:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- "As a side note, I imagine sticker art has been around as long as the word sticky, probably longer" - - - Well, I can speak only for myself, I work exclusivly with sticker since 1987. I know the art-world quite well, and I never heared about somebody, who works exclusivly with sticker too, and I never heared about somebody, who works with sticker before 1987. - Maybe there is somebody, let me know ! - My e-mail: pop.ac@pop.ac —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 16:01, April 25, 2007
- I believe Guglielmo_Achille_Cavellini would qualify, having created entire suits of clothing out of his world famous stickers, used for all manner of artistic expression. Further, I am sure numerous individuals created stickers, placed stickers, and modified stickers, with artistic expression in mind, before 1987. I find it unimportant whether an artist works exclusively with stickers when considering who created sticker art. I have read your cited source and find no statements referring to your invention of sticker art. Please find an independant publication describing your invention of sticker art to support your claim.
- All that aside, your edits continue to be inappropriate considering the conflict of interest guidelines found at WP:COI. Please stop making edits about yourself. If you are as famous and influential to the field as you claim, let someone else make the addition to the article. Best.. send stickers ;).. ∴ here…♠ 17:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- A stamp is a stamp, a sticker is a sticker. - I think nobody would say that Guglielmo Achille Cavellini created sticker art. - I never created a sticker, I stick sticker. The sticker I use are garbage, trash -> I recycle them... more than 2.000.000 sticker - Kindly
- look at www.pop.ac it is all explaned there.- I do not understand your point. - Again, since 1987 I work only with sticker - since 20 years - it is a life-long-time project - 1987 people shaked the head and asked: "How can you do art with sticker" - Now, 2007 you shake your head and you do not believe me that I created sticker art in 1987. - I like to learn from you here is my e-mail : pop.ac@pop.ac - kind regards pop.ac - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 00:18, April 26, 2007
- Perhaps a guideline from the native language will help ;).. see WP:COI's german cousin at de:Wikipedia:Eigendarstellung. Please do not edit this or other articles about your own pursuits. Keep on stickin... ∴ here…♠ 18:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- "As a side note, I imagine sticker art has been around as long as the word sticky, probably longer" - - - Well, I can speak only for myself, I work exclusivly with sticker since 1987. I know the art-world quite well, and I never heared about somebody, who works exclusivly with sticker too, and I never heared about somebody, who works with sticker before 1987. - Maybe there is somebody, let me know ! - My e-mail: pop.ac@pop.ac —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 16:01, April 25, 2007
Inken Knoch from Hamburg Art History Department, under Prof. Dr. Klaus Herding, wrote in the book: - ISBN 3-927244-00-7 - kunst an der universität hamburg ein inventar - on page 29 - Inv.-Nr. 03-09 - that I created art with sticker 1987 - http://www.pop.ac/print003.html - on this website you can read: ... After 1982 he studied medicin; five years later he started with the artistic production in the from him so called "ART COLLE" ->(= sticker art),... - This proves that the artist pop.ac created 1987 sticker art. For more information write e-mail: pop.ac@pop.ac - kind regards pop.ac
- The quote in it's entirety: Nach 1982 studierte er Medizin; fünf Jahre später begann er mit der künstlerischen Produktion in der von ihm so benannten "ART COLLE", die sich "definiert durch Aufkleber, die auf Platten geklebt werden. This quote shows that you were recognized for your work involving stickers, and even credits you with some sort of new term. However, The Sticker art article addresses the medium in a broader sense, including street art as a primary focus. I maintain that a variety of artists both street and classical have used stickers as a primary medium for many years before 1987, Cavellini being one of many examples. I do not believe anyone can claim to have created sticker art in the sense that you are seeking(!). Your work certainly deserves mention in the article, but I will continue to recommend against any statements regarding your invention of the technique, medium, discipline, whatever..
- It would likely be a good idea to split the article into two distinct sections. One would address street art and one the fine art world. ∴ here…♠ 06:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Here is the translation german -> englisch : Markus Diehl (artistic pseudonym: ART COLLART) was born in 1957 in Frankfurt. After 1982 he studied medicine; he began five years later with artistic productions in what he called "ART COLLE" which "is defined by stickers stuck on boards" (Markus Diehl in: ART COLLART presents ART COLLE). Diehl, who presents his work in his "Hamburger Betriebsbüro" / Hamburg Company Office / , cooperates with artists in Paris, Barcelona, Las Vegas and Madras (India). http://www.pop.ac/faq-s_vita_pseudonym_art-collart-03.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 06:56, May 2, 2007 (UTC)
- I work with sticker in streets and public places since 1987 too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 07:01, May 2, 2007 (UTC)
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- Sticker art has been created by pop.ac (formerly known as Art Collart), a Hamburg artist, in 1987 - I still think this (sentence) is correct. - I talk about sticker art and the discovery of the sticker as a media. - Of course people stuck sticker before 1987, but nobody before me discovered the potential of the sticker as an art media like I did in 1987. - Since than I work only with sticker. Artists who used sticker before, used them more as an aspect, not as a media. That is why they did not call themself - sticker artist - and did not think, that they had created sticker art. - More and more the sticker substituted the screw, sticking screwing. The punctional fixing changed to (flächenweise Befestigung) two-dimensional areawise fixing. - Not so many sticker existed. The sticker is a phenomenon, day by day world wide increasing exponential... - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pop.ac (talk • contribs) 22:43, May 2, 2007 (UTC)
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- I think this is a tough one, and Here has been correct to follow Wikipedia policy. I also think there's a difference to creating something and being recognised as an early innovator, or earliest known innovator. Perhaps a mention of him is called for, but also a mention that he is the earliest of documented examples and not a creator/originator, or at least in any traditional sense. Kevin Doran 21:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
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