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[edit] picture usage

Steve thanks, for setting up the P&P pages on wikipedia. Is it possible to use any of the images from your page

http://www.powell-pressburger.org/Images/44_ACT/index.html

in wikipedia? Are there copyright problems? They would be very useful here in wikiland. Eric A. Warbuton 06:43, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem that I know of. The copyright status of most of them is unknown so for Wikipedia I've loaded them up for some of the Wiki articles already using the film-screenshot template. SteveCrook 15:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Roger Livesey

Hi Steve. Roger's biography is looking a bit thin. Is there any chance you could include some of the info from your IMDb bio? I thought it was pretty good. JW 12:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

'Tis done (with a bit of tidying up & Wikifying) SteveCrook 12:57, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Norman Lindsay

What happened? The Bulletin is a publication title and thus would be in italics. Pepso 17:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it must have let me do my edits from an earlier version, before your recent changes. I don't recall seeing any warning. I'll put it all back to your most recent edit with the link I added for Age of Consent SteveCrook 18:38, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Olivier's accent in "Forty-Ninth Parallel"

There are regional variations within Quebec and there were in formerly francophone parts of the former, wider Northwest Territories: a Rimouski accent is distinguishable from a Chicoutimi accent and a Baie Comeau accent and a North Bay, Ontario accent and a Saskatchewan Métis accent and a Gravelbourg, Saskatchewan or a St Albert, Alberta, accent. None of these is anything like Olivier's hair-raising attempt. And Olivier's least critical partisans would agree that accents were not his forte. The comment should remain.Masalai 05:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blimp picture

Hi - not sure about the picture - my formatting skills are a bit limited. I'll play about with it and see if I can do something. Arthur Holland 14:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Succession boxes

Hello Doc, A question about succession boxes. You seem to have done a lot with them. The question isn't about the positioning of them, I have no problem with that. But I've noticed that when you reverted the positioning of the Oscar winners boxes you also took out the film that the winner won for. The preceeding and succeeding entries both say which film they won for. Why not have it shown for that year's winner as well? e.g. Jennifer Jones SteveCrook 00:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'll be honest, I have no issue with the film that the current winner won for being included, although it had not been originally. My issue was with placement and the user that made the massive changes not entering into any dialog or discussion that led me to make rvs without looking carefully enough. On a few, I noted that addition and left it in. My main issue is that when anyone is going to make changes to multiple entries, some consensus should be gained before making that many changes and/or use the edit summary boxes. Doc 01:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Just as this discussion has gotten started, it usually begins on a user's talk page, or in some cases on the talk page of an article. Then if enough discussion gets going there is usually some agreement on where to continue the discussion. This particular issue started because of several persons on a variety of issues posting to the talk page of a User and his failure to reply to any of the questions or messages. Doc 03:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's a link to the discussion being broached: Template_talk:Succession_box#Box_location_discussion_or_style_guide_or_policy.3F.

Doc 04:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 195.188.217.143 report on WP:RFI

I'm currently trying to see if there is a better way to deal with vandalism from schools (see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Contacting_schools_Re:School_IP_vandalism). However for now I think it will have to be dealt with in the usual way: revert- warn - block (if vandalism continues past a recent test3/4 warning).

By the way, this report is being used for training purposes, I hope you don't mind!

Feel free to get back to me if you have any questions. Petros471 20:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The problem with blocking IPs is that you also block any registered user who uses the same IP address, so blocks on shared IPs are usually kept short to prevent collateral damage.
The idea of blocking IPs from editing has come up many times, but has always been rejected. Blocking IP addresses would probably only make most vandals register, and unless a valid email address was required (which isn't going to happen) that wouldn't stop them. The new proposal to report vandalism to schools is up at WP:ABUSE.
I'm currently a coaching someone under the Esperanza Admin coaching program, which is designed to help people who want to become admins be prepared for it. I'm not sure there is any formal training for non-admin users, but there are plenty of places to get help if needed (such as Wikipedia:Help desk and Wikipedia:New contributors' help page.) Petros471 12:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deborah Kerr

Hello Steve Crook. My in-person interview with Michael Russnow, a new acquaintance, took place just yesterday: so, no it has not been published. Our discussion covered his fond memories of the time when, in 1997/1998, he spearheaded (with his entertainment industry colleagues) a campaign to see that Kerr received recognition for her achievements from the British government. Back then, Russnow successfull enlisted letters being written promoting Kerr to the Queen and the Prime Minister by the likes of: David Bruce, former head of the Scottish Film Council, screenwriter Larry Gelbart, screenwriter John Gay, and screenwriter Daniel Taradash, whom all agreed with Russnow , that something needed to be done on Kerr's behalf. Later in approx. June of 2002, documentation of these behind the scenes machinations was published with such headlines as, "It's a shame she's no Dame" in the Letters to the Editor sections of the Evening Standard and the Independent. Russnow also enlisted the help of directors Elia Kazan, and Fred Zinneman during this period to also attempt to haveA.M.P.A.S. similarily acknowledge Kerr with an honorary Oscar here in the States. Russnow had met Kerr many years before all this and he has spoken with Kerr on numerous documented occasions since then--though now, as she is afflicted with Parkinson's, she is no longer open to correspondence. By the way, You can check out Russnow's credentials at IMDB.com. Thanks for your interest. All the best, Bill Keane aka Keane4.

[edit] Honesty

When referring to policy, please do not state that it says things which it does not say, as doing so puts your honesty and integrity in doubt. Hawkestone 22:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I stated facts. It's a shame they disagreed with your view but there's nothing I can do about that. SteveCrook 22:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of the River Plate

Hello. HMS Cumberland appears in the movie only once, as she comes (very nice wiev, but unfortunately, she has artillery turrets removed). In later scenes, the three cruisers are STILL Achilles, Sheffield and Jamaica (I've just bought DVD ;-). Pibwl ←« 17:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I thought that some people might count it as more than one scene because the Cumberland is seen on the horizon and then at various levels of close-up. But if you want to call that just one scene, I won't argue. The main point of the change was to say that she wasn't involved in the battle. BTW, what phonetic alphabet is that they're using when they read the Aldis signal back from the Cumberland? Apple, Nuts, Tommy, Isaac, Charlie ... ANTICIPATION. It's not any phonetic alphabet I can find any reference to. SteveCrook 17:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know either. Pibwl ←« 19:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] The Red Shoes

Happy to meet someone well versed in Powell and Pressburger. Your note about the Mercury Theater was enlightening--I have a followup question, tho. Not doubting your word at all, but how did they reconcile important ballet with recorded music? My edit of "neighborhood theater" was based on the miscue with the turntable rather than the appearance of the theater--tho since they asked permission of Boris to have Vicky appear should have been a tip-off (that they had his ear). Thanx from an American who loves British cinema.--Buckboard 16:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for the quick reply. I saw Dame Marie Rambert's name in the credits as playing herself but I confess my ignorance (though not from lack of interest) in the British ballet. I quickly came around to the "Vicky jumped" school of thought, because it parallels the story and the ballet finale, but the Powell filmed it ambiguously. Vicky does not jump up on the ballustrade as many believe, and Powell cuts away just as she raises her arms skyward. When he returns she seems to collapse as much as flinging herself over. I love ambiguity, so to me its a great piece of film-making. I have seen this film advertised for years on Turner Classic Movies but never watched it--then earlier this year I saw The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp and fell in love with P&P (ironic, because I've always liked the Ealing comedies and so many of the great standards from that era of British cinema). Recently I caught both Black Narcissus (over the top but I think Powell intended it to be that way) and The Red Shoes. I DVR'ed The Red Shoes and have watched it many times since. I don't deny Powell has a way of depicting the radiance in the faces of Deborah Kerr, Moira Shearer, and Kathleen Byron and that grabbed my attention, but I rewatch Blimp and Shoes to see Anton Walbrook. Again, thanx for the inside information about the Mercury. --Buckboard 18:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I thoroughly enjoy your informative and interesting commentary on The Archers and their fine work. The exchange with Buckboard is a case in point. I myself just discovered Powell and Pressburger after hearing an intereview last December with Thelma Schoonmaker. Her regretful remarks about the disintegration of Powell's career following the reception of Peeping Tom enticed me into viewing the film, and I was hooked. I rented several more and have recorded some on Turner, using TiVo, since they are typically on early in the morning. Their variety is as astounding as their quality is immense! Anyway, your glosses are a further boost to my interest in this exceptional film-making pair. TrueC 20:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the follow-up and for the additional information and links. In case you have not heard the Thelma Schoonmaker interview I mentioned, it was with the exceptionally insightful and incisive interviewer, Terry Gross, on her NPR program, Fresh Air. (One reason I mention Gross and that program is for the perhaps parochial reason that my son spent a month interning with the show back in January 1989, when his school gave juniors a month off to work on a project or to get out in the world. Working for Fresh Air was an edifying experience for him, and after witnessing the operation behind the scenes, he was able to reveal the secret to the shows success: Gross reads and sees every relevant item before conducting an interview, spending her day in her office reviewing material germane to that night's broadcast. She probably does the same when she is not in her office. It certainly shows!) The Gross interview with Schoonmaker originally aired on May 25, 2005, and I heard its repeat broadcast on December 26, 2005; it is available online at the NPR website: [1]. TrueC 19:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Once again, thanks for the additonal information! TrueC 04:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Karlheinz Böhm's father

Nazi or Nazi supporter? I guess the latter is worse, even if one is not a member of the Nazi party. I guess musicians as famous as Herbert von Karajan, Wilhelm Furtwängler, Richard Strauss could be called Nazis, though they didn't like other Nazis, unlike Karl Böhm. But it seems doubtful whether Karl Böhm really was "a Nazi supporter". If so, then why was he dedicated to operas banned as 'cultural bolshevism', and does his son, who is married a Black woman, have nothing to say about it?

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[edit] Helen Mirren

Hello SteveCrook. I had to leave a quick note saying that I had exactly the same reaction to the edit that you did. I almost typed your words into the edit summary line when I took it out and reading your note made me chuckle about it all over again. Thanks :-)) MarnetteD | Talk 19:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. I have been following your discussion with the anonymous user on Helen's page and since, inremoving their edit, I was the instigator I just thought that I would drop a couple of ideas. My first reaction, and the reason I took the edit out, was that a) Most people who know her work know that she has never been bashful about stripping off and b)I agree woth you that noting just the one film seeemed awkward. Reading the comments of the anon user I have wondered if a sentence along the lines of "One of the features of Ms Mirren's career is that she has never been bashful about appearing nude in front of the camera if the role called for it". As I reread this I am saying ack as there has to be a better way to express this idea.
I guess the main reason that I am writing is that I don't want to shoo a new member of wikiP off. The last note seemed a little defeatist and, if possible maybe we can show that what they wanted to mention has some value. If you feel that I am overstating things or just disagree in general please don't worry about it these are just a couple of suggestions. MarnetteD | Talk 23:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attenborough Antics

Hey SteveCrook. You're quite correct. I misread a citing for David as Richard (as I was searching for info on him). I'll remove it now.

[edit] Banned films

Where ever possible, I've linked back to the banned films page for further clarification. - User:Lugnuts 07:56 11/09/2006

[edit] Who the blazes is Allan Gray?

Hi, I've just done some work on Forty-Ninth Parallel, and wondered where you got the information (in your original infobox) that the music was by Allan Gray. According to the IMDb, the music was by Ralph Vaughan Williams (whose page notes that he was "talked into it by Muir Mathieson to assuage his guilt at being able to do nothing for the war-effort"). If there was an Allan Gray involved, he should probably be credited - however the Allan Gray linked to is the largest privately owned investment management firm in Southern Africa, so I doubt that they do many film scores.... TheMadBaron 12:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I've now created Allan Gray (composer), moved the nasty bank and created a disambiguation page. TheMadBaron 17:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenonline

I was just asking around if screenonline.co.uk was notable when I saw this modification. If you are interested, Chessemite added many screenonline.co.uk links you may want to convert to template, and advice him how to use it to prevent our spam bot to catch him. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 04:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anglo-Scot David Niven

You asked recently what Qualifies David Niven as an Anglo-Scot. Well the definition of Anglo-Scot is anyone born or associated with England who has Scottish ancestry, as Nivens father was Scottish and his mother was of French extraction maybe he should be a Franco-Scot?. Although he was born in London (as was other 'Scot' Rod Stewart] His heart lay in the land of his father, he served as an officer in the Highland Light infantry and often would quote Scotland as his birthplace whilst alive (although this has been refuted after death) But the nationality of his father alone qualifies Niven as an Anglo-Scot. Thank you for your query. -- The Equaliser 23:45, 26 November (UTC)

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[edit] List of Personality disorders

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[edit] Powell

I asked for a ruling at the disambiguation page. There used to be a rule that you convert ambiguous names to a full name to aid in finding. I am sure people will still find the article. Searching for "Michael Powell" brings you to the disambig page and he is the only director listed. We can also reverse the change to a fullname if the disambiguation experts say to. Cheers. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 16:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Narcissus

Steve, we know that the nuns are a) from England and b) Anglican. The English branch of the Anglican Communion is the Church of England. It's not been very long since I read Black Narcissus, but I believe this syllogism applies. Carolynparrishfan 21:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that is a bit of a reach, this being before the dawn of the "continuing" Anglican movement. Carolynparrishfan 19:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
No nuns or monks in England after Henry VIII's split with Rome -- we are being misled by the accents, I'm sure. Rapotter 01:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Between the Reformation and the Oxford Movement would be more accurate. Anglican religious orders came into being during the Catholic Revival. Carolynparrishfan 17:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Does this show why they (both Rumer Godden in the novel and Powell & Pressburger in the film) kept it deliberately vague? So that the characters wouldn't be associated with any one order or organisation so letting those people claim to be misrepresented. It's Fiction, it doesn't have to be related to anything in the real world -- SteveCrook 17:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Felicity Kendall

Hello SteveCrook. Thank you for fixing the Who's Who link on Ms Kendall's page. I looked at all those on the disambig page and just couldn't figure out which one was the right one so I appreciate your knowledge and help in getting the link right. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 14:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] imdb

How did you find out the 242 tv shows that got rated 10/10, if you're removing the tv trivia section?


Question: does anybody know what the (I) next to an actor's name on imdb stands for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.0.82.201 (talk) 18:44, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 49th Parallel

Hey, a quick note from a fellow wikipedian & enormous P&P fan -- I had wanted to add some things to the entry for Forty-Ninth Parallel (can't tell you how glad I was to swap my Brazillian DVD of the film, with terrible audio, for the new Criterion), specifically about the film's locations. Do you know where the Hudson's Bay scenes were filmed? I have heard the "Inuit" were hired & filmed in British Columbia, but must say that the locations, and some of the extras, sure look like Labrador Inuit to me. And do you know who the guy is who fires the shot that kills the German on the float-plane? The IMdB has some stuff on locations, but since these are so important in so many P&P films, I thought that I might focus on this area .... regards, Rapotter 01:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Steve, thanks so much for the info! Rapotter 00:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Powell, Brown

1. I got the Pamela Brown information from the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: "She died from cancer on 19 September 1975 at 4 Lee Cottages, Avening, Gloucestershire, and was buried in Holy Cross churchyard, Avening". However, that isn't a 100% accurate source (I've found mistakes in other articles there), so if you have information to the contrary, feel free to undo my revision.

2. Frankie died in 1983; Brown in 1975. So the sentence "He also lived with actress Pamela Brown for many years after Frankie's death until Pamela's death in 1975" can't be true (unless we bring necrophilia into the equation). Biruitorul 07:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Powell & Pressburger categories

Hi Steve. Someone had listed Cat:Films by Powell and Pressburger for speedy renaming at WP:CFDS ([2]). After surviving uncommented there a couple of days it was moved to the /working subpage for processing. As I was going through the rename process, it soon became apparent that not all of the films in the old cat suited the new one, and I put a halt on the processing for reconsideration ([3]). I would agree with you that the former categorisation title is an appropriate one, given the P&P partnership extended beyond directing. I'll be happy to revert those I had started and restore the category under its original title. Perhaps a more explicit description of the category's intentions could be written there, to avoid any future misunderstandings. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 23:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Just to further note, I have now reset everything back to the way it was before, and annotated the category's page and talkpage with info on that most recently-established consensus to alert any future rename proposal. Regards, --cjllw ʘ TALK 00:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nightingales

The article is a 1 block/section. I thinks it needs to have some more section according to Wikipedia:Guide to layout, (Lead section, First paragraph, and Body sections). Then it will be more comfortable for readers. Thanks.--TheEgyptian 00:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I put my comment on the talk page. Thanks again.--TheEgyptian 01:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canterbury

Given that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cast and crew of A Canterbury Tale had a clear "delete" decision, promptly re-creating the same title looked like pure mischief-making. However, on a quick glance, your new text seems perfectly acceptable, certainly it is not the listcruft we had before. A Canterbury Tale is not too long. I suggest you put your text, which I have emailed to you, into there. I repeat my comment in the AfD that a list of all the minor characters should be on an external website. -- RHaworth 18:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] OMG

I missed those two AMOLAD's at the bottom of the article. I was wondering why you stuck that in the intro. I've replaced them. I haven't run across the use of acronyms in other film articles and I'm really not crazy about starting here. Clarityfiend 16:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I take it back. I've done it myself in Star Trek: Deep Space 9, but in that case, it was used many times. If it's infrequent and easily changed, I prefer to take it out. Clarityfiend 16:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Matter of Life and Death

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[edit] The Red Shoes

How can you say this "was" a musical? Did it stop existing when the Broadway run ended? If it is revived there or produced elsewhere in the world, will it exist again? You seem to think the present tense is appropriate only if there is a current production somewhere. Sorry, but once a book, play, film, or musical is written, it remains such for eternity. Like Cats, The Red Shoes IS a musical now and forever. 209.247.22.164 12:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Thanks for the edit

Hello SteveCrook. I just wanted to leave a note saying thanks for your edit on the Laurence Olivier page. I had seen this kind of hidden message used on the Audrey Hepburn page but did not think to use it here. I will remember it in the future and we will hope that this everchanging set of anon IP's reads it and understands. I have been discussing this here [4] with Old Moonraker. If you have anything to add please feel free to do so and thanks again. MarnetteD | Talk 23:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: your note on my talk page

Hi again. Thanks for you note. I was somewhat (though not totally) aware of the diffs in infoboxes. Just in case you weren't aware they deactivated the notable roles from the infobox for actors a few months ago. Mostly on the grounds that there was too much POV in deciding what went in there. So even if an editor puts in that info it no longer shows up when you save the page. There are still a few persistant anon IP's that like to enter that info in and, while it isn't really a big deal, I just feel that it is a waste of space to type anything in there at all, thus my edit summary. Thanks again and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 18:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh my word - many apologies for not signing the above. I haven't forgotten the 4 tildes in a long, long time. Again my apologies Steve. MarnetteD | Talk 20:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Beecham

re your edits to nationality, i think the changes you are making are fine, but i think the tone of your edit comments might be taken by some as a bit snarky. cheers! --emerson7 | Talk 19:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

hmmm....how 'bout: "United Kingdom → British people". --emerson7 | Talk 20:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Usage notes

Hi SteveCrook. Just a quick note to say thank you for taking the bull by the horns and adding the usage notes to the British films lists that I have been working on. My time for the last week has been almost entirely consumed by dealing with a problem editor who has since been banned. I did not have a chance to pull together the ideas for giving future editors some direction on these pages. You have done a good job of setting a standard. I may add a thought or two but you have got things going in the right direction. Thanks also for doing some alphabetizing where needed. I had planned on going through these lists and doing this kind of cleanup when I have finished doing entries from the British film categories (which still may take several weeks) and you have saved me some time by getting there before me. Thanks again :-) MarnetteD | Talk 03:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] The Lion Has Wings

Why is this film categorized as a Powell Pressburger film? I don't see any credit for the latter. Enlighten me, oh High Priest of Archerdom. Clarityfiend 08:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Films

I will of course be adding the year links on the pages tomorrow -it will be like an index page rather than empty, Have no fear I know what I'm doing ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 22:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sim signature

I was terribly young at the time, but yes, it was in person. As I recall, he signed quite happily - maybe his willingness depended on who asked (I was an adorable little moppet!) I do remember him seeming incredibly tall, but then again I was pretty wee. I still have it ... on the same page as Peggy Mount's, now I come to look at it. 86.157.139.140 (talk) 00:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London Meetup - January 12, 2008

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[edit] Livesey

Hi Steve: thanks for clearing up the Livesey matter. I had bumped into a string of references to Sam as his father, and thought the existing info on wiki was an error. Theatricalic (talk) 05:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Red Shoes" references re-org

I like the re-organization you just did to the notes, bibliography and ext. links of "The Red Shoes", combining them together into a "References" sub-section. (I corrected a minor typo.) Is this something you've put in place on other Powell and Pressburger articles? Is it a coming standard? (Not a trick question -- I'm not looking for an excuse to revert. It took me a bit, but I do indeed like it. Just curious where it came from, in case I want to use the structure elsewhere -- will I run into trouble with status quo folks or will it be something recognizable to them?) Thanks for any info. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 11:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm trying it on Dr. Strangelove to see how it goes over there. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 14:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
FYI, WP:LAYOUT is the guideline concerning end-sections. --Jtir (talk) 19:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emeric and Michael

Steve, I've done a bit of editing (full disclosure here: on a subject I know nothing about} on the talented team of Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger. Can you please oversee my edits? I am coming to these articles as a former reference librarian and what struck me was format issues with referencing, which I "touched up" but I did no really in depth study or further research. I have recently written two biographical articles on Wikipedia: Amelia Earhart and Alexander Graham Bell wherein I did some background reading. Do you want a similar treatment to the Powell/Pressburger articles? FWIW Bzuk (talk) 23:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC).

Oops, forgot to mention that I am also an editor (by trade) and author... Bzuk (talk) 03:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC).
and I also forgot to mention that I am a filmmaker, directed two documentary films, screenwriter on two others, worked variously as an extra, gofer, grip, gaffer, consultant and on-screen actor on 10 films. BTW, the change didn't involve cutting the lengthy quote, merely a revision to paragraphing. Is the entire quote verbatim? ("Storm-troopers" is actually a compound word: "stormtroopers.") Note where the punctuation falls within quotation marks. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 04:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC).
It was a brief fling at directing in 2003 when as the screenwriter, I was enlisted to take over two films when the original director was called away to Chile on another project. Being a screenwriter on a documentary is a thankless task anyway and since I knew the context and focus of the documentary projects, I fell into directing. The first film, Bearing his Soul was the life of Gerry "The Big Bear" Barrett, an aboriginal comic starting out as a stand-up comedian that appears on local channels and an Aboriginal network at times. The second film, Zero Over the Prairies was a Canadian-American co-production with PBS. That one also still pops up on television and documents the recovery, construction and flight of a Mitsubishi Zero fighter aircraft. My first book was also made into a film and that one is everywhere, Avrocar: Canada's Flying Saucer (2004) was purchased by Discovery Channel, History Channel, Space Channel, ad infinitum... FWIW, I should have taken "points" instead of a commission/salary, that "flick" is shown all over the world... Bzuk (talk) 04:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Blimp

No problem -- I hadn't gone back to look at the totality of what I did and make whatever adjustments I thought necessary. Probably, you'll find some of them and fix them. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 23:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

BTW, wonderful film, isn't it? One of their best. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 23:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree with that -- Red Shoes, Matter, Blimp are, I think, my top three P&P films. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 23:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] That Howard book

I recently asked my public library for books on Michael Powell and received this slim volume by James Howard. I was about to consign it to the side as insignificant when I noted the back page "blurb" (it's a real word and is actually derived from an author whose last name was forever consigned to the back cover notes that she first popularized with her flowery prose) that indicated Howard had made the first "systematic appraisal of (Powell's) early work". I also googled and found the following review: "The James Howard book is essentially a handbook, a sort of 'Companion to Powell's Films.' it assembles copious data-about their production histories, their collaborating artists, their critical and box-office receptions, some cultural influences - and briefly indicates interpretative slants. In a way it's a scissors-and-paste job, but extremely useful, drawing on diverse and out-of-the-way sources. The comments are sensible, but sometimes try too hard to make P & P unique." FWIW Bzuk (talk) 02:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC).

The question is should we keep it as a reference source? I was about to use some quotes from the book. FWIW, the second notation was actually an outside review. Bzuk (talk) 03:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC).

[edit] One of Our Aircraft Is Missing

Steve, I've begin to tackle this landmark film. Please tell me if I am on the right flightpath, glidepath, bramble path... Bzuk (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC).

[edit] The Boy Who Turned Yellow

Hmm. Where do I start with this ([5])? The incivility in calling my edit "nonsense" while reverting it? The reinstatement of the copyvio? I'll go for the latter. Please do not reinstate copyvio material in articles. --Dweller (talk) 13:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I see the identital text at IMDB is attributed to you, so my apologies. As for the other, I've been cleaning up Norwich City F.C. and the section there led me to add the information at the main article. The content at NCFC was written by an editor in good standing. I've emailed him to ask him to confirm it's correct, as I can't find RS that say as much (and I've never heard of the film myself, never mind seen it). As an FA article, I want RS for the claim anyway. Sorry about this, but your edit summary reverting a good faith edit was distinctly unfriendly. It's unfortunate I missed the fact that you wrote the IMDB summary yourself. --Dweller (talk) 14:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
OK. Well, I'm convinced. I'll hack it out of the NCFC article. And given all that you say, I think it was fair enough to call it "nonsense". Sorry for being sniffy. --Dweller (talk) 15:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps I have imagined the whole thing, but isn't there a scene in the movie where the boy (John) is talking to Nick in his bedroom and Nick asks why John has so many yellow things (like a scarf) and John replies that it is because he supports Norwich City? MLS Mls11 (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you imagined it :)
John's a Londoner, Why would he support NCFC? -- SteveCrook (talk) 15:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey... I'm a Londoner and support NCFC! Don't knock what you ain't tried ;-) --Dweller (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't intending to knock it, just asking a question. But supporting sports teams has always been a mystery to me -- SteveCrook (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] A Matter of Pop Culture and Trivia

I could put up with it if the examples were more substantial, but really, they're rather ephemeral. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

On second thought, the cover is okay. <gnash teeth> Clarityfiend (talk) 03:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Powell and Pressburger

I wanted to let you know, since you've been heavily involved with editing it in the past, that there's been some activity on this article in reponse to an anon users concerns. I've done a bit of rewriting and cleaning up, and thought you should take a look. The anon user had put a lot of "fact" tags on the article, but, after some discussion, replaced them with in-line comments, which you might want to read. Some of the comments I disagree with, but if you've got some citations to fill in the blanks for the source of some of the material in the article, I think that would be useful. Best, Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 04:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Royal National Theatre

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[edit] Titles, schmitles

Hi Steve, the original title of "A Life in Movies" seems to be a graphic rather than a textual title and the general standard is for only main words (Main nouns) to be capitalised but even as soon as I say that, there are a plethora of exceptions to the rules, including ee cummings. FWiW, Steve, nice talking to you again, I was getting itchy to start up a dialogue. Bzuk (talk) 18:43, 13 April 2008 (UTC).

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