User talk:Stephenpace

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Andre 17:33, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • I've added a "Categories for Deletion" tag on the article Category:Master Data Management (MDM). Since this is a Category and not an article, I've recommended your Articles for deletion be closed and the discussion moved to Categories for deletion.--Isotope23 18:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC) Oops, thanks, I didn't notice that! --Stephenpace 20:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Company notability

Companies do have to be notable to have articles, though there isn't really a hard and fast cut-off. I don't actually think Bohica Associates is actually notable enough to have an article, and it should probably be listed for deletion. Andre (talk) 20:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage changes

Is there any particular reason why you edited this user's userpage? Am minded to revert on two grounds - (i) it's their userpage, not yours, and (ii) Wikipedia is not myspace. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 22:08, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

My question above also applies to User:Biggoal. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 22:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Have looked into it a bit further, and it seems appropriate to (a) revert and (b) warn. Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. If you are the user, please log in under that account and proceed to make the changes. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 22:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Apologies, just trying to keep track of new Wiki users making unsubstantiated edits to competing products to that of their own company. Panta Systems makes a data warehouse appliance and I'm not even sure if their company meets notability standards for Wikipedia at this time. I probably should have updated their talk page, sorry. I will revert. Stephenpace 22:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
If the users are employed or connected to the company on which they are editing, then the correct procedure would be (i) post a conflict of interest warning on their talk pages (using this template), and subsequently (ii) posting a conflict of interest tag on the article concerned using this template. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 07:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
If you have concerns about whether a company meets notability guidelines, then flag it with {{notability}}, or if it fails completely to assert notability {{db-spam}} instead. My view is that a speedy delete would probably fail, as the article claims notability, but there's potentially a possibility that it could be deleted through the normal article for deletion process on notability grounds. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 07:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Product Information Management

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Product Information Management, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Product Information Management. Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 17:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Master Data Management

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Master Data Management, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Master Data Management. Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Product Information Management

An article that you have been involved in editing, Product Information Management, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Product Information Management. Thank you. Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] kaleidoscope known to the ancient greeks?

In the Kaleidoscope article, you introduced an edit last year claiming that the kaleidoscope was known to the ancient greeks and was reinvented by David Brewster. I find this surprising information and cannot validation for this online, except from what looks like people copying it off this article. I'd very much like to hear more about this, but for now I will remove this information. Feel free to add it back if you can come up with a reliable citation. Martijn Faassen (talk) 13:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Data Warehousing

Hi, could you give me one reason why you classified my data warehousing examples webpage as a 'google ad farm'? I doubt if you have bothered to visit the page at all. Or maybe you are affiliated with other pages listed? I am a Data Warehousing consultant with over 5 years professional experience and want to share the knowledge about data warehousing and etl process and let the beginners see what is it all about. The webpage is very successful and we got a lot of positive feedback from the users and in fact we were adviced to place a link on wikipedia. The link is not important for us, it's just I am curious why are you trying to be so unfair? Regards Palmgg (talk) 16:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I did look at your site (http://etl-tools.info/), as well as related sites (e.g. http://www.bi-dw.info/), and the amount of space taken up by content vs Google ad on your ETL site is almost half (and the site layout is designed to trick people into clicking the left hand side links). Even without the ads I would have removed it, though--it just does not add enough unique content to be valuable, IMHO. Also, Wikipedia isn't meant to be a comprehensive list of related links. (See Wikipedia guidelines.) However, if you feel the article would be improved by adding your link, feel free to make your case of the article talk page. Regards. Stephenpace (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


The amount of ads is a subject for discussion here (half space taken by ads? really?). But let's leave it, there is other thing that I consider very odd. Let's take into consideration the following page which is in the external links section: "Manning, Ian Data Warehousing - What Is It". When I go to the page, the only thing I see are ads, links and a main article which is a 'sponsored channel'. When I finally decided to read one of the articles which might be interesting, guess what? a registration form pops up. Are you sure this follows the wikipedia guidelines? Isn't it a good material to be classified as an 'ad farm' in your terminology?

Palmgg (talk) 09:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I totally agree with you about that link. It doesn't add value to the article and appears to redirect to another site. I removed it, although I should point out, so could you (this is Wikipedia, after all). Again, it isn't about the ads, it is about value of the content related to the article. Next, there are thousands of sites and articles about data warehousing out there. You feel yours is the among the best of those? And on my Dell widescreen laptop monitor, the top banner ad on your site takes up 1", the left side links take another 1", and the bottom ad takes over 2.25". The main content on that page takes up just over 5.5". That is a pretty high ratio. But again, if you feel your ETL site adds value to the data warehousing article, you are free to argue that on the data warehouse article talk page. Stephenpace (talk) 22:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] please don't undo vandalism reverts

The revert you did to my revert on Michelin Guide was probably incorrect. The piece of information seems to me as clear vandalism - of course in case the user can list a source for that then i will accept it. But please do not revert it again.

Gillis (talk) 00:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad, i apprently somehow managed to revert back vandalism in teh first place. Gillis (talk) 17:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem. When I saw you I just assumed I accidentally clicked on wrong entry. No harm, no foul! Stephenpace (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)