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[edit] Arbitration: Ciz/Evidence for your interest
As a matter of courtesy, just wanted to be sure you were aware of the existence of RFAr/Ciz/Evidence#Personal attacks against Steele. FT2 11:40, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] PETA images
Hi-
You have uploaded several images [1] and said that PETA does not copyright any of their images. Do you have a link to this policy? I searched on their website and found [2] which says, "PETA does not copyright anything. Please copy these recordings and send them to anyone you think should hear them (clergy, friends, etc.)." It's unclear, though, whether it's talking about every bit of content on any PETA website or it is speaking specifically of these resources on that one website. Please note that the act of publishing something on the web and allowing anyone to download it without charge is not the same as releasing it into the public domain. Specifically, for an image to be "free" in the Wikipedia sense of the word, the copyright holder needs to permit derivative works and permit commercial use of the work, both without restriction. --BigDT 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi BigDT,
- Yes, from what I know (ever since I have been following them). They have always said that about any of there work. There was a keynote speech that Ingrid Newkirk gave at one of the animal rights confrences where she commented on the topic at the end. She said that they don't copyright any of their work and it is free for anyone to pass on or use how they wish (the idea is that anything that gets more information out there would help the animals). I remember this really well because their are other non-profits who will come after you if you so much as put their logo on your webpage. (That happened to a friend of mine who made a site on protecting wolves and used the Defenders of the Wildlife logo. They made him take it down even though they were fighting for the same cause). Anyways, they sell a copy of the speech on DVD ("Speaking up for Animals vol. 2" I think), but maybe if you ask them nicely they will send you a file of it online (as I know they have had it online before).--Steele the Wolf 02:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ok ... that's fine ... I just wanted to clarify that "copyright" is really the word that they used. Many times, on Wikipedia, people will in good faith upload an image incorrectly believing that allowing free downloads is the same as releasing copyrights. I would suggest linking to the statement on [3] on any PETA image that you upload and tag it with something like {{PD-author}}. That way, there is no question. Also, it's important that if the image was downloaded from a PETA website that you provide the source URL, even if it is public domain ... that way, someone looking at it six months from now doesn't wonder if it actually came from PETA or not. --BigDT 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good idea, I will keep that in my mind in the future. I see you already dropped in that link next to the picture. Thanks for the help.--Steele the Wolf 02:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ok ... that's fine ... I just wanted to clarify that "copyright" is really the word that they used. Many times, on Wikipedia, people will in good faith upload an image incorrectly believing that allowing free downloads is the same as releasing copyrights. I would suggest linking to the statement on [3] on any PETA image that you upload and tag it with something like {{PD-author}}. That way, there is no question. Also, it's important that if the image was downloaded from a PETA website that you provide the source URL, even if it is public domain ... that way, someone looking at it six months from now doesn't wonder if it actually came from PETA or not. --BigDT 02:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fuckpeta.net link
What? You can't have links to show the other side? BrianRFSU 22:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- We could fill the PETA article with Anti-peta websites tell the cows come home ;)
- Seriously though, Wikipedia isn't here for every side to espouse their Point of View (POV). The article has to be neutral (NPOV) and on top of that we can't fit every PETA link and article onto the wiki PETA page. Only those that are reputable sources who contribute to the page are being included at this time.--Steele the Wolf 23:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for the RfA support!
Just wanted to thank you more! :) FT2 (Talk | email) 02:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- It was well earned :) --Steele the Wolf 21:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)