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[edit] Clarification

It is clear that he is more then a “Macedonian from the whole region” as he associates with the republic of Macedonia[1]

Quote: Greece pitched a beef about the new nation taking the name and Staios showed instant awareness of the dispute. "Macedonia, the independent country. That's the way we want it known!" he replied with vigor.''

Alexander the great1 22:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

None of the sources justify the claim that he is "ethnic Macedonian". They only show his knowledge of Macedonia (which one, this one or this one or this one?) and his parents are from Macedonia (which one, this one or this one or this one?) Mr. Neutron 14:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason that they do not say that he was "ethic Macedonian" is the same reason that Italians and French people are not usually called "ethnic French" or "ethnic Italian". It is resnable to come to the conclusion becuase he does not claim to be Greek-Macedonian or anything like that. By saying just Macedonian he is saying that he is just that "Macedonian"(ethnic). The quote posted above proves this. When he says that he wants Macedonia to be an independent counrty and that he is mad as Greece for starting the name dispute.

The reason that they do not say that he was "ethic Macedonian" is the same reason that Italians and French people are not usually called "ethnic French" or "ethnic Italian". It is reasonable to come to the conclusion that because he does not claim to be Greek-Macedonian or anything like that and by saying just Macedonian he is saying that he is just that "Macedonian"(ethnic). The quote posted above proves this. When he says that he wants Macedonia to be an independent country and that he is mad at Greece for starting the name dispute. Alexander the great1 15:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Macedonian does not equal ethnic Macedonian. Be more specific when you look for sources. Mr. Neutron 15:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Outside of Wikipedia it does. Unless it says Greek, Albanian, Jewish, German, Italian in front of Macedonia, it is reasonable to assume that they are just "Macedonian" (ethnic) as Macedonians from the Republic only call themselves Macedonian.Alexander the great1 15:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Not true. Macedonian most of the time requires careful disambiguation. Mr. Neutron 15:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, find one source where he says he is Greek-Macedonain or something like that.Alexander the great1 15:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I have never claimed he was Greek, although judging by his last name he probably is. Mr. Neutron 16:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

A Hellenized Macedonian. --58.169.249.32 10:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the point made at the top of this thread. The source quoted there is crystal clear. The guy was explicitly asked by an interview whether by saying he was from "Macedonia" he meant to identify with the Greek or the RoM side, and he explicitly declared the latter. There really is no room for doubt left, wiki-lawyering aside. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:41, 23 October 2007 (UTC)