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Contents 1 First/Birth Name 2 Asbestos 3 Opening paragraph defies NPOV 4 Cause of Death 5 Height 5.1 Edits from Banned User HC and IPs 6 Photo 7 The Great Escape Jump 8 Unreferenced Christian stuff 9 Notorious BIG lyric... 10 Question about sequence of marriages in Infobox 11 McQueen and Martial Arts 12 Incorrect info on "An Enemy of the people" 13 Was McQueen adopted?

[edit] First/Birth Name

The Social Security Death Index shows his first name as "Terrance". Terence is the most popular spelling on google, with Terrence behind that and Terrance being extremely rare. I'm not going to change it without more proof that this, but given the circumstances of his childhood I'm tempted to believe the spelling in the SSDI. Thorne 18:01, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have changed the spelling of Steve's birth name to Terrence. Admittedly there is wide disagreement and confusion about this, and admittedly also the IMDB lists the spelling as Terence. However, on the basis that most of the better McQueen biographies, including those by Christopher Sandford and Tim Satchell, list the spelling as Terrence, and given the fact that his grandson is called Terrence Steven McQueen II (pretty good evidence that his own son thinks that is the correct spelling), I have changed it to Terrence. Johnnyparker (talk) 10:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asbestos

The article refers to McQueen using an "asbestos soaked rag" to cover his mouth. That's nonsense - asbestos is not a liquid and things cannot be "soaked" in it - but I haven't changed it because I don't know what meaning, if any, was intended. 67.158.72.8 04:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening paragraph defies NPOV

With statements such as "With penetrating slate-blue eyes, unconventional and craggy good-looks, he had a rugged machismo presence. Sometimes flashing an insolent smirk, he projected a tenaciously undaunted and captivating on-screen persona that also extended into his off-screen life", the opening paragraph of this article defies NPOV, and has been tagged for improvement. Hall Monitor 18:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cause of Death

"Dr. Kelley.com has the cause of death of Steve as - murdered in the hospital having had the cancer removed which was cured and because of a phone call to the Doctor which was intercepted by FBI likely sent the actor to his death." 216.165.11.242 23:50, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like typical weird conspiracy nonsense of which the internet is a haven for.

[edit] Height

Read this interview with his first wife Neile Adams, she says quote "I've got his passports to prove that he was 5'10 1/2", 5'11" http://www.mcqueenonline.com/neilemcqueentoffel.htm 61.68.144.39 (talk · contribs) - 13:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The article states that "he was known to wear lifts," but gives no citation for this. I'm curious to know what the implication is, in this case: would wearing lifts necessarily mean that he wasn't 5'10"? Perhaps they would be necessary in order to remain eye-to-eye (on screen) with someone taller than that. Does an "official" height listing mean that the studio is going to take great pains to ensure that the actors (and their characters) never appear to be any taller/shorter than that on film? Also, oddly enough, Barry Norman's account of McQueen's height is included at the exclusion of the statement given by McQueen's first wife. You'd think if anybody knew how tall the guy was, it'd be her, and she seems to be the only one so far with any actual documentation. Precise or not, if his height is that big of a deal then I think a passport is worth mentioning. intooblv (talk) 08:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, my U.S. passport has no mention of my height. Monkeyzpop (talk) 12:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edits from Banned User HC and IPs

Wikipedia's banning policy states that "Any edits made in defiance of a ban may be reverted to enforce the ban, regardless of the merits of the edits themselves. As the banned user is not authorized to make those edits, there is no need to discuss them prior to reversion."

1) HarveyCarter (talk · contribs) and all of his sockpuppets are EXPRESSLY banned for life.

2) Be on the look out for any edits from these IP addresses:

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[edit] Photo

I don't know if anyone has noticed anything special about the photo posted on the page?

Is posting that picture off a book legal? TheCooler 19:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that, but have you taken a close look at what McQueen is holding in his hand? Minerva nine 06:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

According to wikipedia:profanity it seems like it should be gotten rid of. Entirely unnecessary for the content of the article. I'm removing the picture from the page. Whursey 05:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

--Bdelisle 08:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Escape Jump

This page credits McQueen with the jump over the fence, but later credits Bud Ekins with making the jump. The Great Escape DVD extras have an interview with Ekins wherein Ekins states that he made the jump. With McQueen dead and many years between the event and Ekins' interview I see little reason for Ekins to maintain a lie for "insurance reasons". Is there any reference to McQueen actually making the jump? If not, the first statement should be corrected.71.133.246.82 21:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced Christian stuff

I removed the following unreferenced "data":

Upon his death, they found his Bible in his hands, open to the Letter of Titus, with his finger pointing to the verse shown him by Billy Graham.

If you can provide an authoritative reference (ie, from someone who actually witnessed it - not "they"), put it back in.--Oscar Bravo 15:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

It is referenced reliably in Steve McQueen : Portrait of an American Rebel. But the verse was John 3:16 —Preceding unsigned comment added by IDarreni (talk · contribs) 01:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notorious BIG lyric...

The line "Y'all already know, new kid on the scene / breaking out the box like my man Steve McQueen" has never been uttered by Biggie, especially not in Gimme the Loot.

[edit] Question about sequence of marriages in Infobox

Steve McQueen was married three times, as verified in the Infobox. I question the sequence in which the marriages are listed. In the Infobox, the marriages are listed from last to first. It is protocol to list the marriages from first to last. I might be a good idea to rearrange the sequence of Steve McQueen's marriages in the Infobox from "last to first" to "first to last." Anthony22 17:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] McQueen and Martial Arts

Steve was not EVER trained by Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris. He asked both about giving him lessons and they both recommended that he approach Pat Johnson instead. Johnson trained him. The Parsnip! 18:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Once again, McQueen was NOT TRAINED BY BRUCE LEE. I have referenced this. Keep putting in that he was trained by Lee and/or Chuck Norris and I'll keep removing it. Nobody of Consequence (talk) 01:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Incorrect info on "An Enemy of the people"

The article says it was never released on VHS, but it was. Do an ebay search and you'll find legit studio released copies (rare but they exist).

Actually the article says it's "currently unavailable on VHS or DVD," not the same thing as "never released." Monkeyzpop (talk) 02:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

check again, it says "never released" —Preceding unsigned comment added by IDarreni (talk • contribs) 12:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

I did check again. Turns out the article said "never released" in one section and then in a later (inappropriate) section, it repeated the information, only this time saying "currently unavailable." I've fixed it. Monkeyzpop (talk) 20:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Was McQueen adopted?

Slovak Republic's Foreign Ministry site (www.mzv.sk) claims that Steve's birth name before an adoption by the McQueens was Štefan Ihnačák (pronounce as Shtefan Ihnachaak). 80.120.174.245 (talk · contribs) - 17:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

1) This is the ENGLISH version of Wikipedia. Asking us to go to a website in a different language isn't going to fly.

2) Do you have a United States adoption record (in English)? If so, lets see it.

3) All of the edits from this IP address (80.120.174.245) have been used purely for vandalism to date, why should we now take it seriously? Your pattern of editing gives you zero credibility.

4) We need: verifiable sources in English

IP4240207xx (talk) 20:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)